26 (edited by Xeno 01-Nov-2013 16:00:39)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

[IC3vet]  Ragnarokkr wrote:

no you moron, I attacked you for planet growth as everyone does, you declared on me after 1 grab and since I didnt see it as a full war I didnt bother to put much effort into it.

and yes, I devised all the rules, I am the mighty rule-overlord!

Those who make the rules know how to (ab)use them to their advantage, and since you are so clearly abusing the rules, I wouldn't be surprised if you had a significant hand in formulating them.

Let's look at the facts: you've started a war against a player half your NW, and you're dragging out this war, not doing anything,.  Why?  I think it is so you can infrawhore in top spot in the gal.

See, anyone else who attacks you, you'll whine about it and call them a vulture or accuse them of being in an IA with me.

Meanwhile, you insult and belittle me, the lower networth player who you, in your cowardice, tried, but FAILED, to farm planets from.

This is completely dishonorable.  Players like you should be banned, permanently from playing this game as far as I am concerned.

But the game as it is designed, and apparently owned, by people who think like you do: designed to reward and even forces players to act like you do.

Is there any wonder it is failing to attract a large community?  I'm almost convinced I should stop trying to save the game from the idiocy and malevolence of players, designers, owners of players like you and just let it fail.

Yup, I'm beginning to think it deserves to fail.  The only remaining players are a bunch like you who get off on harassing, insulting, and bullying others.

I should just give up and let you all bully and harass each other until this game dies.

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

Xeno wrote:

Those who make the rules know how to (ab)use them to their advantage, and since you are so clearly abusing the rules, I wouldn't be surprised if you had a significant hand in formulating them.

show me again how I am abusing any rule here? I truely am curious

Xeno wrote:

Let's look at the facts: you've started a war against a player half your NW, and you're dragging out this war, not doing anything,.  Why?  I think it is so you can infrawhore in top spot in the gal.

No, you declared war on me and are still declaring it on me, I however have NOT declared war on you, if anyone is dragging this out it is you!


Xeno wrote:

Meanwhile, you insult and belittle me, the lower networth player who you, in your cowardice, tried, but FAILED, to farm planets from.

I tried to take one planet and I took it, I wouldnt call that failing... as for the belittleling.... Those who still know me from a few years back will know I would not if I did not think you have it coming.


Xeno wrote:

This is completely dishonorable.  Players like you should be banned, permanently from playing this game as far as I am concerned.

maybe you should make the rules then wink
rule #1 Players who dont agree with me must be banned!
rule #2 Players who attack me should be banned!

KT is my fluffy godess

28 (edited by Xeno 01-Nov-2013 23:05:38)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

Both the designer and player are victims of tyranny.

Irregardless, it is time for players who have had enough of watching this game die by 10,000 cuts to do something about it.

Change is needed to its inherently flawed design.

There is no need to debate it.  Evidence of its flaw in apparent to everyone.

29 (edited by Xeno 02-Nov-2013 00:04:41)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

So, update is, that this guy clearly just intended to have war with an easy target - a player less than half his NW and then not doing anything.

Well, after calling him out on it, he finally attacked my unportalled planets that I had recently explored.

It seems he can't break my portals.  Why?

Well, he messaged me in private with messages purely intending to gloat over taking my unportaled planets, and put me down, insult me, and even said himself that he was saving for his EOR jump.

Week 11, 17 Save - Reply
I am in doubt, should I keep saving for my EOR jump and just annoy you while I'm at it or use my savings to wipe you off the face off the map?

or is that rule abusing aswell? ;-)
Signed, Fluffypaws of Cats (#10002)


My reply was that players like him should be banned because they are killing this game and for him to stop messaging me.  His messages seem to be intended purely to harass, gloat, demean, degrade, etc..

But he replied saying just what it is that I've been saying is the problem, the only players left playing this game seem to be a core group of very malevolent, players prone to harass and degrade others:
 
Week 11, 17 Save - Reply
'who should be banned from playing here because players like you are destroying this game'

no we are the only thing who make the player count about 10..



also..... is messaging you again abusing the rules now aswell?


It's clear his plan was to declare war against a smaller player, then don't do anything, allowing him to save for his EOR jump without having to worry about getting attacked by anyone, because if anyone did attack him, he could whine about how he was at war and how he was getting vultured.

Well, boo, hoo.  Really...

This guy should get no sympathy from anyone.

wink

Anyway, my reply to him was:

This is the last time I will say this.  Stop messaging me.  Your messages are only intended to harass, demean, gloat, degrade, etc...

The very sort of demeanor that has caused many players to leave.

The game is designed by people with your way of thinking, to make the game appealing to malevolent people like yourself, and not really anyone else.

Again, don't message me.  If you have anything to say, say it in front of the whole community on forum.

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

So, the update is that this guy clearly just intended to have war with an easy target - a player less than half his NW and then not doing anything so he can save for his EOR jump.

Well, after calling him out on it, he finally attacked my unportalled planets that I had recently explored.

It seems he can't break my portals.  Why?

Well, he messaged me in private with the answer, a messages purely intending to gloat over taking my unportaled planets, and put me down, insult me, but he put his foot in his mouth even said himself that he was saving for his EOR jump.

Week 11, 17 Save - Reply
I am in doubt, should I keep saving for my EOR jump and just annoy you while I'm at it or use my savings to wipe you off the face off the map?

or is that rule abusing aswell? ;-)
Signed, Fluffypaws of Cats (#10002)


My reply was that players like him should be banned because they are killing this game and for him to stop messaging me.  His messages seem to be intended purely to harass, gloat, demean, degrade, etc..

But he replied saying just what it is that I've been saying is the problem, the only players left playing this game seem to be a core group of very malevolent, players prone to harass and degrade others:
 

Week 11, 17 Save - Reply
'who should be banned from playing here because players like you are destroying this game'

no we are the only thing who make the player count about 10..



also..... is messaging you again abusing the rules now aswell?


It's clear his plan was to declare war against a smaller player, then don't do anything, allowing him to save for his EOR jump without having to worry about getting attacked by anyone, because if anyone did attack him, he could whine about how he was at war and how he was getting vultured.

Well, boo, hoo.  Really...

This guy should get no sympathy from anyone.

wink

Anyway, my reply to him was:

xeno wrote:

This is the last time I will say this.  Stop messaging me.  Your messages are only intended to harass, demean, gloat, degrade, etc...

The very sort of demeanor that has caused many players to leave.

The game is designed by people with your way of thinking, to make the game appealing to malevolent people like yourself, and not really anyone else.

Again, don't message me.  If you have anything to say, say it in front of the whole community on forum.

31 (edited by [IC3vet] Ragnarokkr 02-Nov-2013 11:29:20)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

Very well, for the whole community or the 3 people who read all this.....

taken from you own post http://imperialconflict.com/forum/viewt … ?id=189306

Xeno wrote:

1.  Do not nap or pnap anyone.

Week 23, 12 Save - Reply
Hi. I would like to explore into system 34,33, a system near my core.

I think you are portalled there, so I am signing a nap - 72 hour. Please sign.
Signed, Xeno the Enlightened of Xentia Faction (#9950)

Oops, aaaaanyway, one more time, YOU have a war with me, I dont have a war with you so you can not accuse me of stretching this war!
Urgent Relations Updates
Xentia Faction X (9950) has DECLARED WAR on us.

Xeno wrote:

It's clear his plan was to declare war against a smaller player, then don't do anything, allowing him to save for his EOR jump without having to worry about getting attacked by anyone, because if anyone did attack him, he could whine about how he was at war and how he was getting vultured.

again and again, you have declared war on me, not the other way around, and even if someone else attacked me, fine,
2 wars are allowed, I wouldnt like it, but certainly not whine about it.

Whining is something I leave to the experts.... I think we all know who that would be

KT is my fluffy godess

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

Raggy dont get sucked into the discussions, it has no end nor solution

Turn on - Tune in - Drop out

33 (edited by Xeno 03-Nov-2013 04:04:43)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

Here's how it went.

I politely offered nap before I explored a system where he was portaled, to which Ragnar said no to nap and warned if I did explore he'd attack me.

So I didn't explore.

Later on, he broke a portal of mine and tried to take a system.  That's when I declared war.  He declared war back.  Then I cleared him from my system, eventually.

Then, well, nothing, really.

So, I can't really do anything about him.  He's too big.  I couldn't understand why he didn't just pummel me and take my planets.

I figure it's because I jumped fleet enough to defend my ports, and he doesn't want to jump fleet to clear them.  Says he's saving for EOR.

So, I think he's picked this war with a player half his NW so other people don't attack him while he saves for EOR jump.

He's clearly Xenox-minded player.

Xentia-minded players seem to be setting up on him now, which is gooooooooooood...

I'll try to help.

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

I'm not setting up to attack him...I'm setting up to defend him from psycho socialists like the Xentia...

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

35 (edited by Xeno 03-Nov-2013 18:40:24)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

I'm not a socialist, and I'm not psycho.

Player-ownership of a game, just like customer / employee ownership of a company, is not necessarily socialist.

Takeovers of such companies by consumer and employee strikes is likewise not necessarily socialist.  It can be done democratically, or according to principles of fascism, or principles of anarchism, or like any other ideological persuasion.

Why do you think I am a socialist, Arby?

Why do you think I am psycho?

Why do you demonstrate hatred toward me?

All I am doing is showing you and everyone the fact that the game is designed by bullies for bullies, appealing only to bullies, which is the vast minority of people, hence why it isn't attracting a large gaming community.

I am calling for change to this state of affairs, trying to do something about it by trying to start a xentia faction which is simply a group of players that play the game in such a way as to undermine and the bullying paradigm by which this game is designed to operate.

I'm trying to fix this game to make it more successful; to stop it from destroying itself.  To make it profitable, but profitable for players, not the bullies who have designed it and have thus resulted in its lack of success.

What other motivation do you think I have?

Why do you think this way?

It's because you operate under the self-interest paradigm rather than the community-interest paradigm, and because you are angered by being proved wrong by facts pertaining to and analysis of the problem, and the presentation of ideas for solutions to such problems, because such solutions undermine your control of the design of the game, a form of control that was never democratic, but entirely and utterly undemocratic, be it fascist or socialist I have no idea, only that certainly it was not democratic.

But I'm not going to call you a fascist or a socialist or attack you personally.

I don't hate you.

To the contrary, I recognize that you have such a desire to be a bully, to personally harass, demean, belittle players, and am suggesting to make a place for players like you in this game, an opposing Xenox faction, where you can bully, demean, belittle players all to your heart's content in so far as your opposing Xentia faction will let you do so. 

I really don't understand the problem here.

What is with the resistance to what I'm doing here?  Where does such animosity and hatred for this idea come from?  It is a solution to the problem this game has been suffering from for years.

It should be embraced rather than subverted.  It's in the best interest of the game, albeit not in the best interest of the game concept designers' egos.

Swallow your pride already and legitimize Xentia and Xenox factions and take this game to the next level already.  Enough is enough.

/me deletes from Supernova galaxy in personal protest. 

The main reason is that I'm simply not having fun,

due to not having any chance against to win against larger NW players,
due to not having any chance and even being prohibited from helping lower NW players,
and due to knowing that the rest of round is about saving for EOR jump, which I think is boring - there shouldn't be an EOR at all.

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

I didn't say "from the psycho socialists like the Xeno"....I said Xentia. They are proven to be psychotic socialist scum of the galaxy and will be forever stomped out!

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

37 (edited by Xeno 03-Nov-2013 19:35:33)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

How do I delete?

Did you design the game so players can't delete any more?  They can't even protest the inherent fallacy of the game design by deleting anymore.

Don't tell me you guys did this.

We want to improve the game so that it serves the interest of the players (especially new players).

You have repeatedly refused.

For the love the game, you leave us no choice but to conduct a revolution to get you out of positions where your decision on any game-related matter counts for anything, which necessitates us buying this game and implementing DEMOCRATIC means by which the PLAYERS' interests are served, especially the interests of new players.

Now you design this game to prevent the one protest measure we had: deleting our empire from galaxy.

Really????

I am really hoping I just can't find the delete button anymore.  I'm hoping it is still there in some menu somewhere that I can't find.

Where is the delete button?

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

Mwahahaha! My vile, hostile takover of IC is complete! I lead the true Revolution! One of malice, hate, and disobedience. We have taken this game over, and nobody will stop us!

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

39 (edited by Xeno 04-Nov-2013 02:36:33)

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

After Render and his fam pulled their mass-delete stunt last round, you guys have made the delete button vanish.  What an EXCELLENT way to solve the problem.

I wonder, can I at least dismantle my infra, or is that function gone now, too...

Oh, wait, there's the delete button.  Found it.  But still doesn't work...

"You have commited offensive actions within the last 24 hours; you are not allowed to delete. "

<By the way, there is something called a spell checker, you know>

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

With every deletion, my movement and true Revolution within IC gains power. So please, give up...resistance is futile...

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

Xeno come play in your Starburst fam. Enjoy your round there where people love you!

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

people love him? yikes

KT is my fluffy godess

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

[IC3vet]  Ragnarokkr wrote:

people love him? yikes


Love might be a strong word.

The Belief that one's Own View of reality is the only Reality of the most dangerous of all delusions.

I'll be back and next time ill bring a stronger hamster.

I'm so desensitized, it's gotta be just completely bananas to get me off. - Carl Brutananadilewski

Re: Supernova War thread: Xentia Faction (9950) vs Make your time (10002)

[Thread ----- Closed]

While some of us may or may not feel that a galaxy with similar rules to what Xeno is describing could be a good idea, as it stands messages players received as well as this thread are clearly an attempt to solicit an illegal alliance.  Xeno has received a 5 day ban (as described in the IA thread stickied in Uni), and it is recommended that under the current rules players stay away from similar stunts.

Toodles!

-ud

<KT|Away> I am the Trump of IC