@Schniepel
you're right, there are no ifs and buts but i'm just saying germany played horrible
, and turkey played well partly because germany played horrible
, but for a team with no experience they didn't play conservatively, they attacked and got some great chances
i only wish turkey had all their good guys, they would be in the final, they really tried hard in this tournament, not many teams can pull off what they did, that's why it's sad to see them leave, i knew germany was guna win, i would'nt have been dissappointed if germany won with just dominating the turks but the turks had a fighting chance which saddened me a bit hehe 
and orange, pulling "lucky" last kicks in just about every match they played is not luck, that's skill 
it's not luck that can bring you back from 2-0 to come back and win it 3-2 within 15 minutes 