You posts this in the forum I put up, before it was moved!

First off why apologize for something your going to do anyway! But I do thank you for it
Second where did I insult Shadow in my posting?
(you posted this before it was moved to this posting!) you highlighted this section of my post as to make your point.)
How is this an insult, it is a proven fact that he has played dishonourably on this matter, that not only did he lie to our leader, he compounded that lie with another. All while knowing that he/his family is going to attack ours. Making sure that my family would not build defence until after his attackers ran our fleets, and took a mass amount of planets from us.  How Is this honourable, so all I did was place for all to see that Shadow is a dishonourable player, and if/when dealing with him you should keep this in mind! And that I can say I have always played honourably when playing this game, and that he no longer can, which is the truth!

Why dose it seem to feel that this is about  having a bad round, hell I've has worse rounds than this,and never posted a thing about it. Bad rounds happen, but is it because your family can't work together, or because of others playing dishonourable and ruining the round for new ppl as well as myself. If it the family thing s happens, if its the other your going to hear from me.

Ok well I never said his actions were honourable, wasnt sticking up for him in any way
calling someone dishonourable is insulting them, regardless wether its true or not. And that was pretty much my point in a nut shell

and on a side note tho, Its not a proven fact, as different people have different views on what honour actually is. So even if the move made was sneaky and uncalled for, It might not be seen as dishonourable to anybody else.

Again not sticking up for him, or even taking sides at all, so dont think Im against u either

What do u mean back to where we were years ago?
This is one of the few things that annoy me, because the game has been exactly like this since I first stared playing back when triangulum was the new galaxy. Only difference now is that with fewer players its easier to single people out.

Again, saying what has happened is fine, but insulting peoples honour regardless of how dishonourable they are is in itself dishonourable.
The honourable thing for you to do is, to tell whats happned and then fight back, show them that you wont give in to such mockery.

You're arguements are only half valid in that you need to get over the fact that you feel your not doing anything wrong. I dont want to turn this inyo an arguement, so if u want to discuss yhis behavour like u say, then put it into a discussive format, rather than a defensive stand

Lol did u get that out of my post?
I dont think it should be closed, because it hasnt yet adressed the issue that was brought up

i shouldnt get involved but thats exactly the problem with this game Shadow..when people do dishonourable things..not sure how long uve been around but ive been around a long time. when i used to play getting into the top 100 was a big thing...i joined late and im top 40 already. doesnt that tell u anything.. that the way people play is driving away others. especially new players..is it too much to ask to play with honour, my guess is u suck so much that u have to lie to win. if im wrong prove me wrong.

Holy shit guys, seriously.
Lord soccer I've been here as long as you, and really, who cares? 
Yes, I know what I did was wrong, can we fix it? Nope, can we repair whats already done? Nope, can we all stfu about it and move on like adults? Nope, because this game is full of children.

Seriously, move on,  I'm sure there will be another round!
Quite certain actually.

Furthermore, check my past, have I done this before? No, twas a mistake that turned into a joke that turned into a whole lot of bullshit

At the point war was declared you should have auto went into save mode just in-case

You guys where bigger than us, We worked with what we had and worked very well.
If you think it is wrong that we pulled our self from 12 to 6 in rank I am sorry for fighting to keep our fam where it should be shadow has done a lot for our fam but most importantly people make mistakes

Like yous did by not saving

LOL I could never bring myself to clicking the remove defense button even my own family have to fight me for planets 

Its not greed they just look better on me ^^

Cjay, think about it... if our fleets were ready when he declared instead of 2 weeks early you would have lost a lot more then 175 palents. We had our bankers hoovering you guys in your own core but we never got to killing your fleet enough to have them attack cause we only had one attacker with fleet and then when he was able to attack he didn't have enough shares to pull it off.

His behaviour wasn't fair, i admit, but if he had declared war when we wanted instead of a few ticks early you guys would now have a lot less palents and marius would have been in p mode togheter with nuts... trust me, it was well prepared and you guys didn't see it comming so you didn't stand a chance

cj..u did the same thing to my family..only problem is u did not expect we actually could retaliate back and after war declaration all u did was retakes for a week+ on planet that i raid 8 ticks away from my HS..:D

u can always make ppl life miserable by emptying their planet like i did to u guyz too u know...
just ask the banker how bored it is to retakes empty planet..even now im in a hostile situation fighting ppl twice my size..
i think i have empty half the banker planet and well the pop got massacre from 44mils to 500K pop...

now finally u should understand whats my feeling are when u did that to my family consisting of a whooping 3 players..:D

Ok so as to the first part of your post

Really. OMG PPL ARE ATTACKING ME IN A WAR GAME BETTER GO INTO VMODE!  It's not the attacking that the problem here but the way it went down. And to jump I to VMODE  would have been just as dishonourable in my books

Now for the size difference. You guys were actually larger than us by acouple of k. You started jumping your fleets half way through the war we were having with 45. Your family knew this, knew we had no savings, and chose a dishonourable act to compound your advantage.
As to your point of coming from then 12th to 6th spot.  We had come from 13th to the 9-10 position   It took a lot of work to get this family to start working together, and now it was for not.  I know at least 3 ppl in my family will not be returning next round because of this and other problems with player in the game

lol