Topic: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

Ok this is truely sickening


http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1798.htm

This guy is a Saudi Marriage Official.

He quotes Islamic Scripture where Muhammad married a 7 year old and goes on to say that sex must be postponed for environmental and custom reasons only. He notes Muhammad had sex with his wife when she was 9 years old.


9 years old? They dont have any chance of having a menstraul cycle yet,.... the youngest EVER recorded was a 10 year old having a child....


There is no bedrock of science to support it.


The only religion in the world to hand off brides this young or even to propose it is Islam. This is sickening!

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

I think you screwed up the title slightly...

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

well, back in the day, kids were betrothed in christianity, which is akin to the contractual apart. still, consummation didn't take place that young.

Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

well if you guys hadn't botched his holinesses plans the second time around, he would never have had to send Micheal down to talk to Mohammed. So blame yourselves.

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

lol i gotta be honest when i read the title i laughed out the coke i was drinking

now look what you made me do einstien..there's coke all over my desk

now that is truly disgusting tongue

Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

The youngest mother, whose child survived, was a 5 year old Peruvian girl called Medina who gave birth in the '30s. Her son died in 1979.

Now THAT is trivia.

Also, Einstein, you spout so much shit while sounding so authoritative about it. You should be a politician.

(If you don't believe this, google "youngest mother", there is a snopes article which cites sources)

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

Well I apologize, it was the youngest US girl to get pregnant, and was at a time I was aware of birth ages (2000) and well, I did not know they left info out or made it look like the youngest in the world.


Still... not many girls develop that early, and maturity is certainly an issue...

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8 (edited by HKD 26-Jun-2008 00:30:39)

Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

Fair enough.

Would you have an issue if, hypothetically, a teenager married (presumably against his will) an infant, and they didn't consumate the marriage until both were of legal age? It sounds like a messed up situation, but what with arranged marriages and everything, it might not be impossible...

Personally, I'm more against the whole system of arranged marriages than the underage marriage part.

Edit: To clarify, underage marriage that isn't consumated until both are of legal age.

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

legal age being?

But I am against the whole concept of arranged marriages...


I cannot see anything but grief in a fair percentage of them... think of a bully husband at age 10 who is spoiled and does not get punished for abusing his wife 'lightly' since they are 'playing'.

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time for me to move to an islamic country where do you guys suggest? preferably somewhere with hot girls.

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

Einstien you might wanna change the title

it's not islam, it's more like the south asian/middle eastern culture

which is slowly changing, this includes hinduism, sikhism, budhism, and islam

I find it hard to believe that islam teaches you to marry children or have children with children tongue, for that you would have to provide me with a quote from The Quran

otherwise it's more of a culture thing, it's mostly popular in india where in the unstable parts of the country there is a lot of slavery, and young marriges...this is slowly changing though as more and more of india,pakistan,afghanistan,iraq, UAE and other countries around there are being more "westernized"

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He directly quotes from the Koran and talks about Mohamed but you dont even try do you?

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13 (edited by Gladiator 26-Jun-2008 01:33:01)

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actually i don't have an add on for firefox, and the new firefox doesn't have any add-ons for it yet

so i couldn't see the video tongue other than that i do try big_smile i told you it's not a religous thing more of a culture which includes religion yes but this issue is not limited to Islam if it even is an issue in Islam


EDIT: it would be great actually if you posted what the guy actually said ---try to post the whole thing please

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I am sure you can find passages in the bible to support marrying young.. .they did all through the middle ages after all... and consumated as soon as the girl had her first period...

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I've stated routinely on these boards that mohammed was a pedophile, I wouldn't kid on something like that...

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

Islam in general frowns upon things like this. Muhammad might have had brides that young, I'm not sure about that, but that doesn't mean Islam allows it. There are the "laws" of the Righteous Kaliphs as well (and the later kaliphs, although they're not considered flawless and thus their laws can be disputed)...

If you dig in our own christian past, you'll find horrible things like that too..

"I am sure you can find passages in the bible to support marrying young.. .they did all through the middle ages after all... and consumated as soon as the girl had her first period..."

Err, no.. Not at all.. YOu might find such things in the bible, but it's not in the slightless "medieval". It was written in the "byzantian" area (however that empire will only really exists 300 years later) and before the middle ages start. So it's the late roman time, and not in the area where the term "medieval" is intended for.
But to come to my point: In medieval times (apart from the early medieval times [476 - 9th century] where we can't be certain) marriages were rather late. People wed usually around there 25th birthday, woth men and women. This tendency only ended in the 19th century when the industrial revolution really started to kick in..

I got this from "Vrijen en trouwen : van de Middeleeuwen tot heden : seks, liefde en huwelijk in historisch perspectief" by Chris Vandenbroeke (I'm not sure if it's translated into other languages though)

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This is not the stone ages, not the bronze age, not the iron age, not any of those gone by the past ages...


This is MODERN TIMES. Why should we tolerate this in MODERN TIMES?

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18 (edited by Gladiator 26-Jun-2008 14:42:48)

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OMG ROFL!!

i just saw the video, saw it on my laptop. I was about to stop watching it after the first year old thing, but thought i'd have a bit more fun big_smile

i'm guna quote now "There is no minimal age for entering marriage...you can have a marriage contract even with a 1 year old"

do you understand what that means einstien?? that means he's saying The Quran does not state a minimal age for marrying, niether does the Bible, Torah or any other book or scripture for any other religion, he is just saying logically since there is no minimal age you can even get married to a girl that's 1 year old


He goes on to say, the right time to have sex with your wife is according to your culture, your tradition, or the culture around you,

he then continues on to explain some cultures that allow young marriages and some forbid it with laws,

he then says the example is from Prophet Mohammad, now back then the culture was different, today it is not similar to what it was back then, this judge? has already stated the right time to marry and to have sex is according to your culture and the environment you live in, he's basically saying there is not minimal age or minimal age to have sex stated in The Quran so logically you can be married when ever you want, that's logically, this is the same with The Bible and The Torah, now yes this guy is too much to the book for my liking, but he's a judge of some sort, he has to be...

and then they even say in the end the other gives and example and asks if it's a LOGICAL marriage, not moral...LOGIC

i don't find anything wrong with this, you've just put a spin on words there, next time read more carefully

and he did not anywhere provide a quote from The Quran, einstien tongue

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This man is marrying children. Did you not pay attention to his job title?

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

"This guy is a Saudi Marriage Official"

that's from your first post, and respond to the rest, please i really wanna hear a response for that tongue

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"This is not the stone ages, not the bronze age, not the iron age, not any of those gone by the past ages...
This is MODERN TIMES. Why should we tolerate this in MODERN TIMES?"

What about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Saint Days then?

Every religion has its nutcases, it's not a privilege of Islam..

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22 (edited by East 26-Jun-2008 21:09:03)

Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

gladiator

friend, think about the consequences what you are saying... "marriage contracts" with 1 year old girls (or whatever their age, since he is talking about FORCED marriage) = bondage...

the other implication is that if you live in a society that does not actually prohibit sex with underaged youths then they are fair game whatever their age

if you honestly think there nothing wrong with either of that then that's pretty sick

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23 (edited by Gladiator 26-Jun-2008 22:25:52)

Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

yes there is something wrong with marrying 1 year olds but that is not what that judge is saying, he's a judge he has to be logical

he's saying since there is no minimal age stated in the Quran, logically there is no minimal age to marry or have sex but you have to consider the cultural and environmental factors and pplay according to the laws set

that's what he said, and i don't find anything wrong with that because that is LOGICAL, yes morally there is something wrong with marrying young girls and having sex with them, but logically no for any religion

This is the case with every religion, judaism, islam, christianity, budhism, hinduism, skihism, any religion...

The basic law i guess would be for this matter you follow your culture and laws and moral decision and environment, religion has no minimum or maximum age...that's the point the judge is basically setting

so the question to the thread yes islam allows it, so does christianity, and judaism and so does every other religion, but they allow it LOGICALLY since there is no minimum age stated, moral decisions are another argument, the age you have to decide accoridng to law, culture and the environment you're in

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Indeed Gladiator.

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Re: Islam allows you to marry as low as age 1 :o

fyi, gladiator, you're applying a protestant philsophical premise, 'sola scriptura' to Islam, Christianity and Judaism. that's illogical. so are you're conclusions.