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Drafting ...no drafting? ...how does anything else matter? 
Stay in Fam, changed for two reasons:
1) Playerbase etc doesn't warrant fams being made across 2 rounds. The 2nd round you end up having too strong fams, and less variety. This is for MW too.
2) Stay in Fam system seem to be slighly broken
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Wow, I've been throwing ideas around about pw the last few days and every time I'm shot down by "the pw faithful" saying they want to keep pw's identity as it is etc, then a thread like this appears and everyone jumps in on an idea which changes pw's identity, I'm not gonna support this, if you want drafting goto mw.
Look, yours and Torq's ideas were totally pwnt by this one, we of PW have a chance to do something fun, boohoo for us. Thanks for your input though! 
Yes but this is going to be even funner ow
See! Even the T-Rex has signed up! 
Cos the alternative for you guys is to play in MW, lol.
Why would any PWer NOT sign up
I'm up for this!
Cos the alternative for you guys is to play in MW, lol.
Why would any PWer NOT sign up
Exactly, duh, this is for us Pinwheelers and whoever else wants in. Surely that was clear since the first post lol
RD here too! Muaahaha more! Yes... More...!
compared to other suggestions it kinda is though. pw players in pw, renders idea just possibly removes inactivity pw is plagued with. also what happened to every other round being stay in fam...?
this possibly ezplains it all, you mods just set it random and random map and random all and hope we Pwers are happy with what you give us --> no allianzes, no stay in fam, unused spots in fams every round, a lot of multis/inaktives and players who kome from MW and lose interest when MW requires their attention.
So, we have a mouth, and we're using it (in the best way possible dont get me wrong! )
Render this aint going to happen, not enough time.
Ur better off doing a short round whilst getting this set up officially imo.
RisingDown wrote:I'm up for this!
RD leader or player?
Player, unless there is a shortage of leaders, Then I would be willing to lead a fam. Put me on a list of.reserve leaders if you have one.
Sign me up for a player 
Yes!! /me licks Poley
This is going to be fun
Render is starting to become Aleph 2.0 with his missing keys on his keyboard.Especially when he starts using words like collaboration!
Lets get this show on the road! =P
1. PW's identity has been mentioned several times so lets clarify. its always been short rounds and totally random where you land and i believe this has provided the backbone for a solid community over the years and i believe these are the 2 things that shouldn't be changed. so insane is quite right with his comment
2. point 1 does not mean that i disagree with renders idea. for quite some time ic has fallen a bit by the wayside and needs an injection of something to renew the 'passion' for the game, to bring back people that have left, to encourage new players to join. so there is no harm in trying this new idea out since its really no different to trying out the koth thing etc.
3. i also agree with lee that its going to need a bit more time to sort out the kinks, so in the meantime would it not be a good idea as lee suggests to have a short round with small families just to keep people interested enough to stay on and help do this thing
4. i'm not sure if torq is playing devils advocate or not but no matter what way you put it, you were planning to merge the 2 galaxies and probably with this bug, now was going to be the golden opportunity to do this since both galaxies are going to be shut down at the same time. and i'm pretty sure you're missing the point with pw players protests. its really not so much about the pw identity as it is about the different styles of play between the 2 galaxies. if pw players wanted to play mw then they would do so and vice versa. and while we still have 79 people in pw, its not a dead duck yet.
and finally i would like to use the same words to those in power as were used on us when pw got chopped and changed around - don't knock it unless you tried it. we're all troopers here and we played the rounds that were changed around. this time we're going to be troopers again and try something else that is being suggested by the players rather than mods/devs. and while i favour the randomness and short rounds of the current pw, i will be a trooper and give renders idea a shot.
put me down as a player please render
1. PW's identity has been mentioned several times so lets clarify. its always been short rounds and totally random where you land and i believe this has provided the backbone for a solid community over the years and i believe these are the 2 things that shouldn't be changed. so insane is quite right with his comment
2. point 1 does not mean that i disagree with renders idea. for quite some time ic has fallen a bit by the wayside and needs an injection of something to renew the 'passion' for the game, to bring back people that have left, to encourage new players to join. so there is no harm in trying this new idea out since its really no different to trying out the koth thing etc.
3. i also agree with lee that its going to need a bit more time to sort out the kinks, so in the meantime would it not be a good idea as lee suggests to have a short round with small families just to keep people interested enough to stay on and help do this thing
4. i'm not sure if torq is playing devils advocate or not but no matter what way you put it, you were planning to merge the 2 galaxies and probably with this bug, now was going to be the golden opportunity to do this since both galaxies are going to be shut down at the same time. and i'm pretty sure you're missing the point with pw players protests. its really not so much about the pw identity as it is about the different styles of play between the 2 galaxies. if pw players wanted to play mw then they would do so and vice versa. and while we still have 79 people in pw, its not a dead duck yet.
and finally i would like to use the same words to those in power as were used on us when pw got chopped and changed around - don't knock it unless you tried it. we're all troopers here and we played the rounds that were changed around. this time we're going to be troopers again and try something else that is being suggested by the players rather than mods/devs. and while i favour the randomness and short rounds of the current pw, i will be a trooper and giver renders idea a shot.
put me down as a player please render
nicely put motherjedi
i will play
1. PW's identity has been mentioned several times so lets clarify. its always been short rounds and totally random where you land and i believe this has provided the backbone for a solid community over the years and i believe these are the 2 things that shouldn't be changed. so insane is quite right with his comment
Yep, I've been saying the same thing
2. point 1 does not mean that i disagree with renders idea. for quite some time ic has fallen a bit by the wayside and needs an injection of something to renew the 'passion' for the game, to bring back people that have left, to encourage new players to join. so there is no harm in trying this new idea out since its really no different to trying out the koth thing etc.
I don't think anyone is actually opposed to the idea? Everyone who can, 'has' signed up.
3. i also agree with lee that its going to need a bit more time to sort out the kinks, so in the meantime would it not be a good idea as lee suggests to have a short round with small families just to keep people interested enough to stay on and help do this thing
This was my suggestion Mods were ready to restart the galaxies earlier, but because of Render's thread and then consequently me thinking that it's only fair MW should also choose how they want to play, and with Black Eye galaxy and everything eles from irc shenaningans, bugs, etc, I thought it'd be a good idea to just have a short 4 week round, while things settle down, and Ideas are refined. Again, it's just a suggestion.
4. i'm not sure if torq is playing devils advocate or not but no matter what way you put it, you were planning to merge the 2 galaxies and probably with this bug, now was going to be the golden opportunity to do this since both galaxies are going to be shut down at the same time. and i'm pretty sure you're missing the point with pw players protests. its really not so much about the pw identity as it is about the different styles of play between the 2 galaxies. if pw players wanted to play mw then they would do so and vice versa. and while we still have 79 people in pw, its not a dead duck yet.
Yes, I am to an extent. First of all, I don't "plan" anything. I suggest. It's not in my authority to plan and make changes of this nature. In any case, everyone knows theres differences in playstyle between PW and MW, noone argues with this either.. The same is true For Andromeda and Triangulum. However, as a Dev, I see it as my job to look at the bigger picture here. I try to think on what's good for the overall game. Can I always be right? No, ofcourse not. I just share my opinion and why I think so. And this is one of those things. With specific regards to PW players, ofcourse they'll have this resentment of merging. If there were only 10 players left in IC, 5 from PW 5 from MW, they STILL wouldn't want to merge and would rather continue playing their own playstyles. Is this necessarily the best way forward? No, personally, I don't think so.
and finally i would like to use the same words to those in power as were used on us when pw got chopped and changed around - don't knock it unless you tried it. we're all troopers here and we played the rounds that were changed around. this time we're going to be troopers again and try something else that is being suggested by the players rather than mods/devs. and while i favour the randomness and short rounds of the current pw, i will be a trooper and give renders idea a shot.
Don't misunderstand the Mods/Devs. We're troopers too, and we play in all gals as well. In a Mod/Dev capacity, we do what we can to help IC. We volunteer our time to try to make the game better for all of us. Afterall, we're players too
MotherJedi wrote:1.
put me down as a player please render
nicely put motherjedi
/makes a summery of MJ's post. =P
yay MJ! my point as well, we have a chance let's use it!
sometimes Sol you are such a smartass
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