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Topic: Arguing about Arguing

I.  "Anecdote is not Evidence"

Total BS.  This would amaze many astronomers and make Charles Darwin cry.  Observations are data and data is evidence.  What is honestly meant is "anecdote is not PROOF"; more usually this is just a lazy way to yell "STFU, I have no counter to that evidence so leave it home".

2.  "We're not talking about that now"

WE are talking about whatever EITHER of us brings up.


3.  "You use "we" like you spoke for anybody else"

I'm part of the plural group you insulted a few minutes ago with a broad "you".


4.  "Whoever mentioned the Nazis loses"

I don't know what year Godwin came up with this one, but he was an obvious noob to the interwebs.
Maybe it was in a model car kit forum, in which case it was well taken.
Most of internet arguments involve mass groups of people doing the same thing because some social force creates political momentum. 
In that usual case it can't hurt honest people to explain why they have no real similarity to the Nazis, and jerks should be called for being little nazi padawans.
This comes about because the Nazis felt there was a Nazi way to do everything.  Math. Summer camp.  Labor unions.  Eastern European trade agreements.
So I'm so sorry, tea party, I think it's up to you to explain why millions of people in crowds shouting about total revolution while waving the same colored flag are not in any way nazis.  Blame the Nazis for it.
Should be a slam dunk.  The bit about the total absence of a party militia is particularly telling.


5.  "Wow. Really?"

Wow.  Really?  You're stunned by a web post? Really? Wow.  I hope you never have a motor vehicle hop the curb at you, or have a waitress spill hot coffee towards you, or any other situation where your brain has to process an unexpected and less than desired reality requiring quick response.  Or, just holler "Wow. Really?" as the tsunami engulfs your ass.  That will show it who's superior.


6.  " I have read that several times and it is incomprehensible."

Either you are naturally too rude to ask "Can you explain that?", or, you are a liar, you did understand it, and you want to be insulting and dismissive to somebody who said something disagreeable.


7.  "your/you're"

You're ass. hahahaha.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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I.  "Anecdote is not Evidence"

Total BS.  This would amaze many astronomers and make Charles Darwin cry.  Observations are data and data is evidence.  What is honestly meant is "anecdote is not PROOF"; more usually this is just a lazy way to yell "STFU, I have no counter to that evidence so leave it home".

I do not know who said that, but you are only part right. Anecdotes are evidence, but their use for making conclusions is limited because they are not representative samples. Although, they are very good for countering an "all S are P" or "no S are P" claim.

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The Yell doesn't accept evidence short of 100%. 99.9% probability is not even "evidence" in his view. Unless it's an anecdote, in which case it bypasses this rule and is whatever he says it is.

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Off-topic rambling which makes no point relevant to anything relevant to the topic is still off-topic rambling. While it's no excuse to exclude arguments which are relevant to a topic, it's certainly fair to point out that irrelevant rambling is irrelevant rambling. The topics of forum threads aren't "whatever the drunk guy starts pointlessly going on about." That other topics may legitimately be brought up is no excuse to evade topics by rambling without purpose.

Sometimes things are so idiotic and ridiculous that "wow" is more polite than saying "holy shit dude, it sounds like you're literally on crack."

Similarly, sometimes people are quite incomprehensible and incoherent. Pointing it out isn't evading a topic, it's just pointing out that someone needs to make sense if they want a response.

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Then there's the Troll who argues just to argue, They enjoy pushing peoples buttons more then adding content to the conversation.

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Sticks wrote:

Then there's the Troll who argues just to argue, They enjoy pushing peoples buttons more then adding content to the conversation.

Describes pretty much everyone on this forum.

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The moderators have made it clear that they believe that some people are just genuinely idiotic and/or psychotic.

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Sometimes things are so idiotic and ridiculous that "wow" is more polite than saying "holy shit dude, it sounds like you're literally on crack."

No, I think I earned that blue streak of amazement

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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water sucks, gatorade's better

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water is usually free though

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Re: Arguing about Arguing

Bobby Bueche say's that water is better than gatorade.

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Idk
I disagree
You all are douches for listening to Chris
He is never right.








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water is better for taking a bath, for making coffee.. in fact for 100000001 reasons.
gatorade is marginally better for sports performance perhaps, but contains lots of sugar and could cause obesity and rot your teeth.

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I do not know who said that, but you are only part right. Anecdotes are evidence, but their use for making conclusions is limited because they are not representative samples. Although, they are very good for countering an "all S are P" or "no S are P" claim.

These are peeves that have nothing to do with anyone here necessarily.

And the argument "Your examples are too rare" is more acceptable to me than "Shut up, I don't want to hear about contrary examples!  Real-life is anecdote and no sort of evidence for an internet argument!"

Evidence may not be proof in and of itself, but enough of it is compelling.

Examples are evidence even if they don't compel a conclusion.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Gatorade has sugars. Sugars don't "cause obesity," stupid lazy people too stupid and lazy to stop consuming more sugar/calories than they use cause obesity.

Some gatorade is all well and good. Literally all serious athletes drink mostly water. All those Redbull and Gatorade commercials are for suckers.

And don't drink the tap water, or give it to your kids. Fluoride reduces intelligence in developing children.

All of this should be common knowledge. tongue

No disrespect to Bobby Bueche intended. He means well. Presumably he filters that shit. Good man. Unfortunately, the script just didn't leave room for educating all you sheeple!

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