If you want IC to "actually" be considered a "WAR" game again then go back to the old ways that you quote so much.

Do away with the 40% rule so anyone can attack anyone because after all war is war and America is not limited by a 40% rule that will not let her attack a tiny island like Granada.

Do away with the rule that keeps an attacker from being put into pmode on new planets, if I can get into a fams core and have half my planets taken and get pmoded then too bad for them.

Anyone with any common sense know wars are not JUST FIGHTING.

There is always building up to prepare for war. Thats the eco part of war.

Then there is the diplo part

The bible that I wrote many years ago even says
Luke 14:31 what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand?

Then and ONLY then after you have prepared the eco and diplo has not worked and you have counted the cost do you GO TO WAR

ONLY fools go to war not knowing if they have a chance to win and cause needless death to their people.

so anyway claim old school all you want IC is no more old school and has not been for at least 4 years when they started the political correct CRAP of not allowing bigger fams to rape pillage and farm anyone they wanted to which is real life.

Why do you think I make threads like this one?  Unfortunately I am only a dev, and there is a lot of resistance (including and sometimes especially from Mods) to things I want to change that could return this game to what it used to be both in terms of experience and in terms of player count.

Of course that is a good thing.  I shouldn't be a decision maker, that's not what I'm here for.  However, these conversations need to happen first so I thank you for participating in this one.

There is a balance within game design to be achieved between realism and playability.  Right now we do neither well.

Of course.  However, what we have now is more than that: it is outright avoidance.  Again, the balance is not correct.

We're in more agreement here than you probably realize.  I wasn't around when many of the current restrictions were enacted but I honestly despise most of them.  However, when they were introduced it was the right thing for the time given the activity level of the dev team at that time (only Stefan).

Right now however, I am here along with Elro and Torqez, and Stefan still working behind the scenes.  That is why I feel so strongly about these issues.  The game has been on the decline for many years.  There is clearly something wrong, and the attitudes about what it means to win and what "skill" attackers have is a manifestation of the game's imbalance.

I'm doing what I can to start conversations but in the end we need the devs, mods, and players to all be interested in where those conversations go.  In the meantime, as a player who enjoys fighting challenging (and sometimes losing) wars more than winning easy ones I'm going to call players on their bullshit when I see them run away with their inflated egos as if their rank says anything about their war skills.  That includes you. =P

I've always understood why the rules are there.  Don't assume I'm oblivious to this all.  I agree with their intent but not with their design.  My point is, something needs to change because the current game isn't growing or even close to.

Milky Way is boring.  As the main galaxy, this is a big problem for IC, and I'd like to fix it.  First though I need to know how the players as a whole feel.  That's the point of this thread.

There's much work to be done for sure.  Thanks for posting and voting, looking forward to hearing from more current MW players.

As Fam Banks get bigger, so do the losses, if your Fam Bank doesn't have the Billions the top Fams talk about having then.... meh

It's a flaw within the game honestly.  I don't blame anybody for the way they play, but again I am also a player so if they talk the talk one day and then back down from a fight the next then I'll call them on it, especially if/when they insult me and/or my family for "playing dumb" because we prefer fighting over a rank that is imo meaningless.

Anyway, as a dev I have a higher responsibility to make such things unnecessary.  If for example, WS Lee and HydroP had some way within the game that showed their history as attackers (attacker score, achievements, etc) then they might feel less included to be so wordy about themselves.  Or maybe not, who knows.

In any case, it would also allow more quiet but just as skilled players to also have the recognition they deserve.  It could for instance, show that a player in a small, "doomed" family is actually outperforming a attacker from a higher family.  Not only that, but if we had the proper motivation then the attitude could shift away from "must not lose this war, i worked so hard to get here" to something more like "oh man this is gonna be a challenge.  i better pick my moves correctly so my score is good".

We just have to be creative.  We have the potential to make this game more rewarding for everybody involved including the small guys.  The first step is seeing how people feel and so far from this thread's poll anyway it seems like people are bored.

It's an option, though i think addressing some core features would be more fruitful.  MW should be the standard for the game, we should fix that first before addressing secondary features imo.

I can't take this topic seriously. Please edit the subject.

Is Milky way the new Pinwheel*

TAG POINT

And there in lies a big problem, when some people there would just Farm you down to your undies without thinking "hey, this guy is actually contributing to the game."

"Is Milky Way is the new Pinwheel?" I think he means the thread title pie, one too many "is" there

No MW isn't the new PW, this game is just old and falling into the same circle everytime.

~ Cloud