You are making claims on my fam/alliance you clearly know nothing of.

78/84 have been involved in 2 cancels/failed wars. They were paid by 70/80 and they paid my alliance.

Where has my fam "avoided" conflict? We cancelled on 78/84!!! We wanted a fight! We knew that they had savings rofl!

The only reason we didnt push ahead with the war anyways is because we had the leery feeling the players would delete thus not allowing us to gain any planets. And I am not here to make people delete...i just wanted to war the #1 fam and beat them.

So be careful of who you bash and why. The only time you have seen my family in the news is when we are warring or preparing to war.

@nolio

dude, when you gain some skill then you can talk. til then stfu, sit on your noobie ass, and try to learn something.

No worries Pie I usually have the best threads in uni anyway so keep going.

All I have to say tho about your theory which I disagree with is I paid 75 planets to Lee early and because of it I am now here with a strong fam and alliance instead of being raped by even other fams after Lee would have won anyway, so because I chose the intelligent path my fam and alliance now can fight the number 1 or 2 alliance depending who you think is which and when we win this war we will then be positioned as the number 2 alliance behind 72/81 and can have an eor war ftw

Had I followed your choice of play the likelihood is we would not have a chance to fight 2 HUGE wars against the best alliances.

Like I said, you have your way and I have mine and my fam is a top fam "AS USUAL" and your fam and alliance is

Anyway looking forward to 2 things

1. Winning the war
2. pawning nolio as I always have

I get your point WS.  Again I am not saying you are a bad attacker, I am just considering what this means as a trend.  Yes your fam is "top" but to me that doesn't mean much haha.  I'm totally happy with my fam being where it is because we've had fun.  It's no insult to us that we're lower ranked, because we can say that we never gave away free planets because the threat was too big.  Your family and alliance on the other hand

In any case, you guys have set yourself up for a good fight and I am excited to see this play out.  I don't mean any of this is a personal insult on anybody, but rather just an observation on the attitudes within the current game.

I never said you are not good planners.  I've consistently recognized that you guys are great planners, just haven't as a family proven to be good war planners specifically.

And the rank thing isn't at you specifically, but more in general about comments like WS's where rank is touted as if it means something that it doesn't.

I'll try to be more clear about my comments.  I recognize that many of you in this game have proven yourselves as competent attackers.  What I am talking about here though is that nothing this round has shown many of you to still have the skill which you claim.  I hear a lot of talk, and it's just talk.  I'm wanting to see life given to these words and so far I've been let down.  I'm hoping this war will change that.

Indeed!  I'm talking to an 84 member about this right now too.  I realize that my generalizations are just that.  However, I do want to you remind you how much flack I got from your alliance for not paying up during our conflict with you guys.  I hope maybe you can sympathize with me after all this disappointment.

Again, I'm sure you guys are capable, I'm just waiting to see it.  Until then, statements like "I would totally pwn you in a test gal" or "we are ranked higher than you what does that say?" are pretty laughable, by whoever it is that makes them.

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Your idea for no family aid galaxy is a good one, but it doesn't solve the core problem.  We need to focus on solutions that can be applied game-wide, otherwise we're just creating bandaids instead of fixing the actual problem.

There is some truth to this, but you have to also recognize that the game mechanics drive the goals and objectives in the first place.  Right now NW is the default rank, with size being considered the de facto "real" rank, and score being a joke that everybody hates.

In the end though, the "different objectives" here aren't so much the issue as is the idea that said objectives give any weight to the claim of attacking skill.  People are fine to play for rank if that's what they want to do, but if they pretend that there is a significant level of attacking skill involved to do so, I will call them out on it because that isn't true.

The real attacking skill is to be found in the mid and lower families who are forced to do more with less.  What the current top fams have done isn't the result of strategy during war time or competent and skillful attackers; it is the result of activity, coordination, and  successful economic planning.  That is great in and of itself, but when I say I laugh at the egos in the current game who think they are gods at attacking, events like the top fam non-wars in MW is why.

These people are not effective attackers or war planners.  They are effective at gaining and retaining rank.  If I am disparaging anything, it is the game itself for what it has become.  That's why we have threads like this one.

How am I hypocritical? I have said time and time again that people should play this game "smart". What 78 did was smart...they salvaged a shot (albeit small) at winning the round still.

Just as I said your ally should have.

Not to piss you off " I like Pie ", but shouldn't this topic be under questions, not uni news. if anyone beside you or the mods place a question in uni news, we get told that this is not the proper forum for this topic and it should be under questions, and then the topic gets closed for being in wrong forum

so the topic is
" Is Milky Way the new Pinwheel? "

Does it really matter, i meen really?

This game hasn't been anything like a war game for yrs. it has become a vets game, an eco game, a game of score, and until you are willing to look at the major problems with in the gaming comuinnity,  what really is the point of this discussion.

Universal News
News from the galaxies, written by the players.

While technically a question, the content within is about recent universal news, Milky Way in particular.  If it makes you feel better I can retitle the topic as "Milky Way is the new Pinwheel" as a statement and change the poll to "Do you agree?".

Anyway, yes it does matter.  Looking at the major problems within the game community as at the heart of this topic, which is why it was created.  Just look at the poll results: players clearly feel that the game isn't want it used to be as shown by events within this round.  We need to get that understanding of player feedback before we can figure out the proper solutions.

What is the point of questioning the usefulness of a topic that is clearly soliciting valuable feedback from the players it concerns?  If anything is pointless, that is.

I do see how they are based on the same. And I feel the exact same way about 78 as I did about yours.

"smart" was to just pay up. my preferred for 78 though, woulda been them to fight. while i preferred yours to just keel over and die.

why? because yours was a means to an end...78 was entertainment