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You cant ask for specific coords.
Think maybe we need to change it since we get nap payment now from fam A but cant ask for coords.
Fam A expored in fam B's core so the nap payment has to be given up immediately.
Sucks!
Actually i have a scenario where it is flawed to back Mizzle up on this
Fam A and B have an Nap.
Fam C is supposed to pay Fam A nap but Fam A cant specify systems so Fam C explores in a few systems around Fam A.
Turns out Fam C explored in Fam B's core and the nap specifies that intrusions will be turned over instead of being swapped.
Free planets for fam B.
FLAW!
[20:14] <Booya> kk but now look at this:
[20:15] <Booya> [19:53] <Booya> so i can ask for specific coords
[20:15] <Booya> [19:53] <Booya> but then in reverse
[20:15] <Booya> [19:53] <sup> how does that even make sense
[20:15] <Booya> [19:53] <sup> lol
[20:15] <Booya> [19:53] <Booya> as in you cant explore any planet besides 77,88:99
[20:15] <Booya> [19:54] <Booya> you didnt ask specific coords
[20:15] <Booya> [19:54] <Booya> you just excluded all other coords
[20:15] <Booya> [19:54] <sup> isnt that specifying a system
[20:15] <&I_like_pie> yeah that'd be an abuse of a loophole i think. i believe we *are* allowed to say "don't go in there"
[20:16] <&I_like_pie> but doing what you described would be techincally correct but also conflicting w the IA rule's intent
[20:16] <Booya> but technically spoken
[20:16] <Booya> you're not breaking rules
[20:16] <&I_like_pie> honestly i'd rather just get rid of the IA rule x(
[20:16] <&I_like_pie> yeah exactly
Yeah, that's why i have a problem with these rules in general. They are penalizing players who have no bad intentions. Plus they conflict with NAP agreements, as stated in this thread.
The very nature of cores allows to say "you can't go in system A" yet as LEGEND describes one could say "the entire map except for system A is my core" to do what this rule says you can't. The rule can be abused, although it was instated with good intention.
I suggest we consider why this rule is in place. Mods, can you provide your insight here?
well, normally comp planets are payed by ezploring in the enemy core, no coords are needed, you can easily figure where the core is, you as winner can tell the guy just ezplore where you see I am, and you aint giving specific coords, so no rule is broken.
you as loser ezplore in their core and another family takes them, bad luck, its not my fault that your core is not safe for your fam buddy!
in any case... dont treat compo paying as a game feature, it is NOT, asking for compo shouldn't be allowed, offering planets comp shouldn't be allowed also, so please, dont implement things for the cowards.
Really, this rule shouldn't be in place for explorations. When exploring for people, it should be okay to specify where the comp planets are.
I believe this rule came in about (i think anyway, i wasn't here at the time), was to stop this kind of thing:
"I'll give you a NAP, but you pay me 5 planets. These 5 planets are to be x, y, z, a and b, because they give me shares with Fam XXXX."
^ That kinda thing used to happen yearssssss ago in Milky Way - and imo, at the time everyone agreed it was bad practice/form. Yet people would still do it, without it being an official rule.
Render, in your scenario, its a problem as the family who is receiving the nap payments might have explorers out too, thus they might crash.
Nap payment are part of the game. a fam can save their infra and their round by choosing to pay a certain number of planets that are acceptable to them. Dont tell me in your numerous years of playing u havent paid or received planets for a nap. u are just calling yourself a coward
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