yes I agree, but there are situations where it doesn't have to be so.

3    Birdsss (7881) [67,5]     689    3578188
6    Diebus Hebdomadae (7872) [21,84]     572    2837424

Vs

14    Those Gandalfs are Foohons! (7875) [96,27]     261    1111848

when u look at it like that how does it seem? they dont have anything to take..lol!

meh whatever im just throwing my 2 cents in

I am not the one wanting to kill 75. Pie already knows this...but he is skewing the facts right now to make it look worse on me. Not that I care, I am the bane of IC.

I am in this to finish off 66 and then move on with my IC life. Which I will do

If 75 becomes a pebble in the road of my round, so be it.

So Lee you can really think allies are not supposed to fight as 1 unit that would be absurd or why else even have them as allies?

i said nothing of the kind.

what i did say though there is situations where its not needed and over the top.

Allies make great backup, but its backup...not #thereallthetimeup

"Pie I appreciate your play style and the right to play that way BUT at the same time I think it is wrong to criticize HydroP for playing his style."

I actually fully understand and respect that Hydro's play style is different even if I don't respect the play style itself.  I never criticized him for it, just asked he also recognize that we all don't play for the same reasons.

"If HydroP decides to play that he will rape a fam that plays like Pie does then he has just as much right to that opinion as Pie does to his."

This has been my point all along.  You are completely right.  Playing the game by one's own means is what we are doing, which does not make us stupid as HydroP is stating.

You and I are on the same page here.

Who's whining?

Sheesh you guys get so defensive over your egos.

btw, GoL

"But 66 aside, my skill is so far beyond that its pitiful. It has nothing to do with activity because our family was one of the more inactive families all round long. We have battled with getting players in to this fam for quite a while! Hell our first week we literally had 1 banker!!! So don't give me that shit"

What a load of crap.  Need I remind you that we were both in 7873 when this round started?  Despite my saying people should play what roles they want, you asked me to leave because we had too many attackers.  And I did, to respect that you were already the leader of that family.

And what happened next?  You deleted!  You left them out to dry because they weren't active enough for you.  You told me this yourself.  So yes I will give you "that shit" because you haven't proven that you have the skill to make an inactive family work.  All you've proven is that you are too afraid to try, and even after making a commitment to lead a family you will flake on them in hopes of finding a better prospect.

What irony that 7873 is doing better than your family at the moment.  If anybody is proving what you claim to have done, it is them.

I stand corrected.  I'll admit when I am wrong. =P

My point remains though: you guys are where you are because of coordination.  That doesn't say anything about your fighting skill.  What has happened between you and 66 has been lopsided, and considering what they have to work with, I respect their ability even if you only see it as "simple retakes".

Like I told IC Death, your size is blinding you from proper perspective.  Being in a large family doesn't mean you have to ignore what is involved to attack when you don't have much to work with.