I think that your ideas are not far off but lets clear a few points here.

1. " It's bullying, lazy, and cowardly in my opinion."

That is just not correct. The part that is bullying is the bigger family hitting the smaller one in the first place. The part where I am "going to ruin your round" is simply the cost of the decisions made by the smaller family.

2. You say that it is a good strategy that will push larger families away from yours in the future...I say people don't fear that strategy anymore. The weak fams who want to simply get all the easy planets they can might shy away, but the true aggressive attackers in the game will simply see that as another challenge to overcome.

3. "Attacking families really hate when you don't give up"

That actually is not always true. In some cases where the larger fam simply wants to grab some planets and run it MIGHT be. But in some other cases it may simply be that the larger fam doesn't actually want to hurt the smaller fams chances of a decent round. So they move in, hit for a set number, offer a NAP so to allow that fam to get themselves back on track.

"That is just not correct"

This is a matter of perception.  That's why I said "in my opinion".  Neither of us is correct or incorrect in this regard.

"I say people don't fear that strategy anymore. The weak fams who want to simply get all the easy planets they can might shy away, but the true aggressive attackers in the game will simply see that as another challenge to overcome."

I did not say this will make anybody invincible, rather it will make them a less desirable target.  If the number of people who are willing to attack you is lessened at all, then the point remains that this can be advantageous.

"That actually is not always true"

To be clear I meant they get angry when you refuse the planets-for-peace deal.  And you're right this is not always true, but I do find it often to be the case.

"So many fams now will clearly get beaten by losing 20% of their planet count and then instead of going "yup, you def got me" they decide to "suicide" or as some other people like to word it "make them fight for what they want".

You're missing the point entirely.  This isn't about a clear loss, it's about demanding extra.  It's about the attacking family being greedy.  It is not the same thing to say "yup, you def got me" if the attacking family is also saying "yeah we got you.  now give us even more for free".

And yes, that is exactly what it is too...greed.

Understood, and I don't mean that in regard to your war with 66.  Your guys situation is my second example, which isn't a greedy one itself though 66's refusal still aligns with my points above.

That's a different situation though, (1) because you are not the aggressor but also (2) because at some point you are offering a nap without any comp.  Some families will take that, some won't.  That is a similar but different issue than this one.

Still though, I have to ask: if you were in favor of 50 planets, what was it that compelled you to demand comp for a nap?  Why not just nap without payment and both fams move on?

I can understand that, but isn't that part of the risk involved when going to war?  Why do people assume or think they are entitled to guaranteed profit?

You say "teams need to know when to accept defeat" but why is it not also that "teams need to know when pursuing a target is not worth the trouble"?

Both have their place in this game.  I think however that many people only see the first one.

Regarding your first point, I understand that this can hurt the family within the current round.  However I'm also considering the impact this has across rounds.

If you see 2 potential targets that are equal in every other aspect, except that one is lead by somebody who you know does not give in to those kinds of demands, wouldn't you pick the other family as the more profitable target?

what it really comes down to  is that big fams intimidate small fam into giving up planets so they can get around the limitation of 8 e-ships a day per person.

I've been told, "I don't give free naps to fams like you."
Which implies that if we were larger they might give a free nap,
literally proving that they think they deserve to demand planets solely based on their size.

I think the issue is its inherently hard to hold planets taken in big wars due to the easiness of retakes.

That means that families are forced to
a) negotiate terms where one family gives up planets to another
b) beat them so hard they can't retake anymore

Now, ideally what should happen, is a family beats another family, that family acknowledges it and the war ends while a family is up in a reasonable amount of planets.

What tends to happen is...

The family that wins gets greedy and asks for more planets and the family that lost constantly retakes and keeps the war going.

The first case is pretty self explanatory, some people are douches. But for the second, i think its a bit harder. If the family thats losing keeps retaking, it leaves that family with basically the option of hurting them more until they stop retaking.

So what i'm really saying, is sometimes its both the winning and losing fams responsibility to be reasonable.

i like both of those options being a bully is fun

@Pie--- i can give you one reason why Most families that are demanding Planet Payments for Naps after wiping the floor with another family..

Its plain and simply and the thing that mass majority of families shoot for every from start to finish of the round.

Size Rank   

After coming back to IC from not playing for many many years back in the early years the good years.
But all that i hear is the .....Score don't matter..... Networth don't Matter.... All that matters is whos #1 in Size.

So there for that is the belly of beast on why the majority of the families demand planets after Wars. Gotta Admit some are pretty up there with demands.

Like for example last round in MW before it was shut down, i was in 81 and our Ally 72 i think can't remember exactly. We was about to have a big Ally war 2v2 with Lee and his Ally. But talks began cause Lee was missing a Main attacker in fam and probably one in ally fam over the weekend. So pretty much Our Alliance demanded a total of 500 planets for Pnap. yeah worked in our favor but still little drastic but it was done and agreed upon by Lee and we jumped to quickly from 2nd or 3rd in size to 1st.

So point being people act the way they do with demanding comp is all for Size Ranking.