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We just implemented this idea: http://www.imperialconflict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=180389
Simple enough, but am curious as to your thoughts. Torqez and I have been debating its placement in particular. He thinks it should be right-aligned, and I prefer left.
What do you guys think? About the alignment and also the usefulness of this in general.
The clock is a good idea and makes life a tad easier. The alignment won't make much of a difference really. Wherever it's located on the top there works well.
You misunderstood his question, I think.
Torqez > Pie
or
Pie > Torqez?
PIE WINS!
Left cos its easier to browse with the bar on the left. i dont have to shift my eyes to the right.
If it was inline with the Navigation Bar (or a part of), or inline with the resources line ...i could potentially agree 
Right now, it's an eyesore and an abomination!
make a new sidebar its about time we had a nice one made.
at the top above HQ u can add the time on there
It should be centred, purely for asthetics!
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OK I personally don't like where it is , it looks too cluttered on the left, not sure it would look any btter on the right but may do. Centralised would probably work for the best, just under the Res Icon bar perhaps.
Also why is IC text/fam news all now centralised? I haven't liked that since it happened & wish it would go back to how it used to be with left alignment! please can that be fixed too? Not really for this thread i know but it is to do with Alignment!
move it to the bottom leftof the skreen, below the sidebar, and with smaller fonts (muzh smaller so they kan fit in that spaze)
Possibly Center it, otherwise, cool!!!
Ty Pie for some tagpoints
I'm with shadow, possibly center it.
While we're on this, how difficult would it be to make the top info bar more defined in general? Could keep rez info, just added time clock, would make sense to have the "new message" notification appear there, prolly a few other things that would make sense there
Pie > Torquez. Pie is sexy as fuark
Idc where it goes, but change to 24hr format please.
Great feedback so far everybody. My feelings thus far:
The placement would do well as an option. There seems to be valid reasons for left, right, and/or center. Unfortunately though that will require more effort than is probably worth. It seems opinion is pretty split so unless we get a wave of people expressing complaints for left-aligned we'll probably keep it as is.
This particular placement is probably short-term anyway though. What Undeath describes is our long term goal. If you look at the code around the time text, you will see a div called "header-bar". More stuff is intended to go here in the long run, like new message count, en-route fleet count, etc. Torqez had some great ideas regarding this.
Lee's idea is an interesting one, but is dependent on a reworking of the current sidebars. This is a tough decision because putting informational "view-only" data on the left nav conflicts with its designed purpose: actionable navigation. This is why it is currently at the top; if we had all the possible info on the left side it could get pretty messy. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try though, but rather that we need to balance functionality with design consistency with these things.
Who knew such a small thing could require so much thought? =P
Arby: Agreed, I will be changing that today.
Thanks for the feedback all, and please provide as much as you'd like. It's very helpful to know how players feel about even small things like this one.
> I like pie wrote:
> Lee's idea is an interesting one, but is dependent on a reworking of the current sidebars. This is a tough decision because putting informational "view-only" data on the left nav conflicts with its designed purpose: actionable navigation. This is why it is currently at the top; if we had all the possible info on the left side it could get pretty messy. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try though, but rather that we need to balance functionality with design consistency with these things.
Also, the sidebar would require an actual clock instead of just a time posting because the sidebar doesn't refresh.
Cool addition to add the time, cos I damn sure needed it to communicate 
GMT is a solid reference, it just looks a bit silly, not fully integrated for some reason 
A live-updating clock is the long term goal either way. Ideally this will also update the galactic week/year as well but that will be a bit trickier.
Reindeer: I agree. I think it breaks the theme of IC's time by referencing real world time. I think we could solve this with some clever phrasing. Something like "Standard Earth Time" so it fits better within the IC universe. Subtle, but important detail for sure.
Updated to address Arby and Reindeer's points.
why is it on every page ? not just HQ ?
looks almost like the message " the universe will update itself in 5 seconds "
It's also not on the rankings page
it is in center on message page 
"why is it on every page ? not just HQ ?"
The point was to be on every page. It however won't be on some because of the way certain pages are coded. Forums, Rankings, there are a few others. We have long term plans to fix this as well.
Regarding the msg page, there is an issue with how that page was created that makes styling things inconsistent. That will fix itself when the msg system is reworked, which is also on the list.
Sorry Pie, I think right side of the page would be better, looks weird where it is
No need to apologize, I think it's simply a matter of preference. Hopefully we'll be able to fit it in somewhere nicer looking when we update the overall site layout.
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