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Wow, very nice Pie smile

Suggestion:  Can we make the default sort NW?  Score is quite misrepresentative (and noone seems to want to give me a solution on how to make it better).

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What's the official winning determinant?  I notice the rank page still defaults to NW even though score is supposedly the official winning metric.

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caught ya mirin' wink

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> I like pie wrote:

> What's the official winning determinant?  I notice the rank page still defaults to NW even though score is supposedly the official winning metric.


Size is and always has been. Would argue that NW is a better indicator of who is ahead in the early game though, but that has to do with the NW from planets being a larger part of each families NW.

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Is that official though?

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Official? nobody cares what is official by the game's standards. We have always considered size to be the 1 winning factor. It shows that you truly achieved the Conflict part of the game.

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That's the point though.  If the consensus is that size matters most, then the game can be changed to reflect that.  Until though though, the wiki needs to reflect the game imo.

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What is "winning" Pie?

Family with the most planets, who had to farm their way to the top? Or a fam that finished 7th in size, but always war bigger fams and fought hard and had a fun round. "Winning" is accomplishing ones own goals, whatever they may be.

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Size is the ONLY thing that matters in a conflict game of take from others for yourself.

score means nothing and NW means almost nothing smile

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> Arbolio3 wrote:

> What is "winning" Pie?

Family with the most planets, who had to farm their way to the top? Or a fam that finished 7th in size, but always war bigger fams and fought hard and had a fun round. "Winning" is accomplishing ones own goals, whatever they may be.



This is a sport, not an art class, Arby!  big_smile

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That's fine and well Arby but unless the game has a clear, measurable objective it will be impossible to quantify a family's performance.  At the moment we have 3 metrics, with score being the "official" one as far as I can tell.  That's why I asked, because the ranking page still defaults to NW rank despite the addition of score.

The question "what family won round x" should be easy to answer.  If it isn't, the game objective is diluted.

This is getting off topic of mw pvc though.  I'll create a new thread, I'm interested in your guys' thoughts!

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Score has never been the official one or even thought about in a positive light since it's addition.

Size has always been the official ranking that matters at the end of the round.

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The game itself disagrees. From the ranking page: "Score is what determines the winner. It is added to on every tick."  People can dislike it all they want but you can't get any more official than that.

In any case, I've opened a new thread in Questions regarding rank so we can resume PvC in this one.  See you all there.

[edit: nevermind, see torqez' thread below instead]

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Yep, Size has always been the measure of rankings at the end of round.

Networth has always been an indicator of performance during a round.

Score, has always been irrelevant since it's implementation.

I therefore trump your Questions thread, with my Ideas one! -> http://www.imperialconflict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=179173 (Posted exactly 1 month ago)

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Seeing you don't actually 'win' anything I think this is a moot point.  NW and Size are used to quickly find families worth attacking... other than that you will always have people wanting bragging rights for biggest this, highest that (most attacks, most gc made, most endurium made, most ops.... ect...).

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not winning anything could change.  see torqez' thread

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Pie Score is not "Official" anything it is there because Squirrell thought it was a good idea regardless of the masses, he just decided one day to add it for no real reason. I know, I was there!

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score is useless. just take it out! u have people deleting and inactives being killed off during the round and it affects the score. dont see how that shows anything!

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Wendy, even if it does not work well it is still official.  I'm not saying it is good but if Squirrel, the owner of the game, writes it in to be official then nobody can argue otherwise.  It'd be the same as if he renamed droids to be called "battle robots".  Yeah we'd all still call them droids but "officially" they would be whatever the game code says they are.

Player-recognized does not mean official.  This is why I'd like to get score fixed, so that score can be both official and recognized by the players, instead of it being disliked how it is now.

Let's fix score instead of ignoring it.

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I get what you're saying pie & yes it should be fixed if it's to have any meaning for the players. I was just giving some background, probably came over a bit harsher than it should be meh

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No worries, I think this is a frustrating thing for many people.  More reason to make it right!

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I'm nev0r frustrated! I just got the chronic usual period of the day! =P

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> WS IC Legend wrote:

> Size is the ONLY thing that matters in a conflict game of take from others for yourself.




had to lol you could seriously take this out of context

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What, are you saying you didn't have to put on your glasses first Lee? big_smile

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Bazinga

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