maybe the 12 rape victims were dressed in such a way to be asking for it

You_Fool, the notion that OWS and the Tea Party were remotely similar in regard to breaking the law is completely false and idiotic.

Whereas the Tea Party people were commended for cleaning up after themselves, the OWS people were breaking laws by even staying in the locations they gathered at after hours. Private land owners and stewards of public land were pressured to let them break the law and stay because they were demanding more government power--over banks, over school loans, over giving everyone jobs, etc etc etc.

Einstein didn't even cite vandalism and destruction of property (both public and private). That numbers would surely be in the thousands if not for the more serious crimes which caused it to be ignored for the duration of the OWS homeless/jobless gatherings.

You have no basis for that comparison whatsoever. You know you're wrong.

Though I agree, protesting ridiculous tax rates and unsustainable spending which will collapse our government and our currency is totally moronic. [cluck] our kids. It's so stupid to not dick over future generations. We can have nice stuff now and make them pay for it! Obviously a good decision.

This thread is about the OWS crime and arrest record. It's about unlawful and destructive behavior.

You accused the Tea Party of being comparable to OWS. Given the topic of this thread, that the comparison was to similar behavior was implied. I didn't put words in your mouth; I responded to your post.

Your judgement of their political philosophies is hardly the same topic as a discussion of their criminal behavior--or lack thereof, in the case of the tea party.

It sounds like you have absolutely no interest in the topic of this thread and just want to complain about random political philosophies.

So you deny that OWS had of a much higher crime rate per participant?

"The thread is a joke, The list on the link is a biased political stunt designed specifically to make the OWS look bad and Tea party look good. My response was my own score card, that being both movements are idiots, which is about as balanced as the list, for more discussion on that read the comments on the link."

Only if you think a complaint about the serial presence of rape, assault, mayhem, murder, arson, vandalism, and blocked traffic, is objectively baseless and subjectively rooted in political bias.

Once again I didn't say that the OWS didn't have crimes, they did, I didn't say that the Tea party was full of crime, it wasn't, the items in the list were likely tryue, if somewhat biased given it also listed all arrests (4k+) but didn't take into account any illegal arrests or other such 'mistakes' by police, nor does it list the crimes against OWS - which given the type of people (i.e. morons) means that there may have been some tic for tak going on.

Then presence of crime in the OWS is not surprising, given what it was, and the reverse is the same for the Tea party, however these facts are nothing to do with the underlying political ideology and more to do with unemployed students v rich white people, each group wanting to shit on the other group as much as possible.

So now everyone who acknowledges that our tax rates are insanely high and that our current levels of spending are unsustainable and harmful is rich and white.

Presumably you're arguing that majorities of many minorities in the USA are too culturally bankrupt to care that the nation is headed toward governmental and economic collapse. I agree!

What's wrong with wanting lower taxes and sustainable levels of spending? What's idiotic about this ideology?

[No personal attacks]

Did you read his manifesto on Libertarians? Almost socialist, almost... once he realised the way to make his dreams work...

If I ever find the time for a meaningful post I will point out how you are close, but not quite, a socialist. Also where you are wrong about what defines socialism, and what has been used to define it.... there is a difference; much like how there is a difference between how Flint tries to define what a Libertarian is and what is actually one...

Anyway the idea that low or zero taxes solves all social woes and that deregulation of everything ensures people are not exploited is a foolish idea, nice but ultimately foolish and hence moronic to hold.

Edit: sorry I should be more specific, I mean that those ideas will mean those outcomes, it is the stated outcomes (whether you want to believe it or not) but is not what actually happens in the real world.

" the idea that low or zero taxes solves all social woes and that deregulation of everything ensures people are not exploited is a foolish idea, nice but ultimately foolish and hence moronic to hold."

Maybe generalising the tea party but, meh, close enough....

Also I fail to see how I am saying that you advocate lawlessness.... Is it just me or do you read different words to what I write?