Re: Republican States out performing Democrat States

Last week, Pew released a new study showing that trust in the federal government remains near all-time lows. Worse, for the first time ever, Pew found that a majority of Americans believe the federal government threatens their personal rights and freedoms.
And it is not just Republicans who now see the federal government as a threat. A full 55 percent of independents agree with them, up from just 50 percent only two years ago.

But the story is completely different at the state and local level. According to a September 2012 Gallup poll, a full 65 percent of Americans trust their state government -- a 14-point jump in confidence from 2009.

Why is Americans' confidence in state and local government surging while their frustration and fear of the federal government are growing? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Republicans govern at the state level.

Republicans currently occupy the governor's mansions in 30 states, representing 58 percent of the U.S. population. They control both the governorship and legislature in 25 states, representing 52 percent of all Americans. Democrats enjoy such control of only 14 states, representing just 33 percent of the country.

And not only are Republicans governing more than half the country, they are objectively doing a much better job at it than Democrats are. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average unemployment rate in the 25 states controlled completely by Republicans is just 7.2 percent, more than half a point lower than the national 7.9 percent unemployment rate. In the 14 states with full Democratic control, unemployment is 8.4 percent, a full half-point higher than the national average.

The Republican state economies are growing faster too. According to the latest data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the real gross domestic product of the 25 Republican-controlled states has grown almost .25 points faster since 2008 than the real GDP of the 14 Democratic-controlled ones. And they aren't doing it by going into to debt. The Republican-controlled states on average have a Standard & Poor's credit rating a full grade higher (AA) than their Democratic counterparts (AA-).

Just look at Michigan, where Democratic Gov. Jennifer Granholm left her Republican successor, Rick Snyder, with a $1.5 billion budget deficit and an 11.7 percent unemployment rate. By cutting spending, simplifying taxes and reducing regulations, Snyder has produced a $400 million budget surplus. Unemployment has fallen almost 3 full points to 8.9 percent



Those statistics are huge. Not only that but I think the numbers for those who are out of work and not looking anymore are primarily in Liberal States if I remember correctly. This should, beyond a doubt, show the sucess of Conservative Policies. Less unemployment, less debt, less waste.... vote a conservative Republican into office everytime!

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I think your local newspaper or supermarket would be a better place for internal US-party-propaganda than the IC-forums.

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1. He's going overseas to challenge the Democrat fundraising base.

2. Our supermarkets are full of DYING QUEEN DEFIES CAMILLA crap, no time for US politics.

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yes michigan is a great example. try picking a state that isnt dead tongue and has been so for decades

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N. Dakota
Florida
Idaho

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"What's happening in Detroit, can happen everywhere" - Barack Obama

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Re: Republican States out performing Democrat States

Vermont
New Hampshire
Minnesota

hey im good at this tongue

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"In four of those Republican-led states (including McDonnell's Virginia), Republicans have held the governorship for less than 19 months. The same is true for two of the three Democrat-led states."

those states being the top 10 lowest unemployment rates with republican governors

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Somehow I feel that these statistics are being used highly subjectively and with great bias.... I get the feeling I should look into it....

Also some quick questions, in general, how much of a state budget goes to defense/military? How much to Education and Healthcare? Do the different states vary with different parties in control?

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> You_Fool wrote:

> Somehow I feel that these statistics are being used highly subjectively and with great bias.... I get the feeling I should look into it....

Also some quick questions, in general, how much of a state budget goes to defense/military? How much to Education and Healthcare? Do the different states vary with different parties in control?





State budgets to military spending?  Um... none.  The federal government pays for the US military.  The National Guard is also federally funded.  But yes, between states, there will be different funding for education/healthcare, along with local taxes.

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Ha! I caught Zarf in a mistake!

Each State has the ability to run a seperate militia as well. Oregon has such a militia!

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Now that you have pointed out that some states are out producing others, I am sure the President will come along and redistribute the wealth.  Its not fair unless everyone is equally miserable.

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he's trying, he refused to declare Texas a disaster area when the wildfires hit, and when BP let the oil rig blow up he demanded the payout go to the feds not states

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are police and fire fighters under state or county? as that is a defence expense

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not out here...

ugh, we got SOME state police-- usually capitol and legislator bodyguards.  California Highway Patrol is a state agency that patrols...

Every county has a sheriff, and the incorporated towns of any real size have city cops.

California has a Forestry service, now called CALFIRE because we are stupid

Every county is SUPPOSED to have fire service, but San Diego does not, because everybody else will show up to save their ass

and cities have city fire departments.

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Is it possible that the answer is not Red v Blue, but the fact that States are not trying to support a vast mammoth of a department that drains the coffers for no practical gain? Maybe if the Fed re-distributed spending from the Military to Education/Health/lower taxes (depending on what the successful states are spending on) then it would do as well?

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One problem with that, though: Since the federal budget comes from citizens of all 50 states, the economies of all 50 states support the federal budget anyway... so there's no basis to distinguish "this economy in the US is supporting military spending, that one isn't."

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US Dept of Education spends $68 billion a year
http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/budget13/summary/13summary.pdf

US Dept of Health & Human Services spends $892 billion a year 
http://www.hhs.gov/about/budget/fy2012/fy2012bib.pdf

Defense Department budget was $553 billion in 2012.
http://comptroller.defense.gov/defbudget/fy2012/FY2012_Budget_Request_Overview_Book.pdf
(it cost them $38,000 to prepare that report btw)

So without a national health system or a national school system we spend more on health and education than the military.
No.
Throwing more money away won't improve crap.

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Is the money passed to the Fed government an all in one type money? For all services? Or do they separate it out? This is for Defense, this is for Health? Is the portion given to Defense comparable to the fed spending per capita?

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1: Money is not distributed to the federal government from states.  It's two overlapping tax codes.  You pay federal taxes, and you pay state taxes.
2: No, your taxes are not subdivided by category.  It's just "income tax."

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It's quite simply really

all taxes and tariffs and whatnot go into the General Treasury Fund

except Social Security taxes which go into the Special Fund

which since 1972 is emptied into the General Fund, see, and Congress writes Congress an IOU with interest for the next years receipts.   Not to worry, the Special Fund has enough money to pay 72% of claims from 2017 onward.  Probably.  Since there's not going to be another recesssion-- oh damn.  well. Still, 72% is better than nothing!  It may end up 50% someday, and I bet you'll be praying to God it gets back to 72%!

And then there's the obligations created by the Federal Reserve which ARE NOT DEBT. NO! No.  See, the Federal Reserve, to ensure the health of our banking institutions, demands every bank keep a set percentage of deposits on hand as actual cash reserves, to ensure that if the economy collapses again, that bank can keep its doors open and be available to help out other stupider more criminal banks who shall surely collapse.
And then, having determined the minimum level of reserves necessary for the health of the financial sector, the Federal Reserve helps itself, and issues an IOU for the balance.  So! That IOU is in no way a debt upon the credit of the United States Treasury! No sir! Only if the bank has to dip into its reserves, and the Federal Reserve can't honor the IOU by robbing another bank's reserves, will it ask the Treasury to cover the bill! THEN there's a debt by the US government.  But of course that could only happen if every bank in the FDIC system was suddenly hit with a crash, and, what's the odds of that, hey? 

OK what's the odds it happens again so soon? Well there you are!

So the answer to your question is, BUY US BONDS!

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