Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Once a cheerful place filled with laughter and joy, Hogwarts is now facing its darkest hour, as depicted in Rita Skeeter's latest article in the Daily Prophet:

"It is now 2 weeks since the murders began. Many of Hogwarts' students and even staff members have been killed inside the school grounds!
Most students have gone home in fear of being next to meet their doom at the hands of the unknown villains who have been acting freely inside the castle. Faced with this proof of utter incompetence from Albus Dumbledore, the Ministry of Magic has been forced to act and has ordered the Dementors to leave Azkaban and make sure no one enters or leaves Hogwarts.

The Minister of Magic, Cornelius Fudge, has given the reluctant staff at Hogwarts an ultimatum: abandon the castle and be sent to Azkaban, or face the Dementor's wrath as they consume one person's soul daily, until there is no living soul left at the premises.

So far, Dumbledore's reaction has been one of defiance, saying he will not give up a single one of his students to the Dementors. It seems clear at this point, however, that the Headmaster is simply cowering in terror of the Dementors himself, as well as being terribly afraid to face the consequences of his own (in)actions.

Stay with us as we here at The Daily Prophet keep you informed of the truth behind these events!"

***

- SILENCE!

Professor Dumbledore's voice, augmented by the Sonorus spell, resounded throughout Hogwarts' Great Hall, as accusations were flying around.
The remaining students and professors inside the castle could no longer trust one another. They had witnessed as many of their friends had died without warning or explanation. It was unclear how these deaths had happened, but one thing seemed certain: they were going to continue.

- I asked you all to gather here so I could tell you all what I have uncovered. Assisted by Professor Snape, I carried out a ritual that allowed me to investigate the auras of those of us still within the castle. Our worst fears have come true: we have Death Eaters amongst us, including the Dark Lord himself, Lord Voldemort. They have been among us all this time, posing as normal students.

The students gasped in terror as Professor Dumbledore continued.

- I will not lie to you, we find ourselves in a terrible predicament. However, it is in the darkest times that we have to look deep within ourselves and find the courage to stand up against those who wish us our and friends harm. The Death Eaters are protected by ancient dark magic, no doubt the work of Voldemort, and as such I have been unable to find out their true identities. As such, we are forced to take another course: every day, we will have a vote; the person with the most votes will then be handed to the Dementors, who will surely be able to determine his true identity, as well as unfortunately consuming his soul.
I am terribly burdened by this, but it is necessary if we wish for at least some of us to not perish here. And Tom, whoever you are, mark my words: you will pay for these atrocities before I meet my end!

As Dumbledore turns to leave, the shell-shocked students slowly started to chatter about the latest revelations. It truly looked grim, but as long as they stayed together they knew they were coming out alive. Harry looked at Ron with a look of resolve, and they kne

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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

***** ROLES *****

Deatheater Mafia will consist of 5 members:

- Lord Voldemort, cannot be killed during night phase and is immune to investigation; can use his trusty snake Nagini for a 1 time kill during any phase. If that takes place during the daytime, then that persons lynch vote still counts toward that days lynch total.

- Bellatrix Lestrange, allowed 1 time use of the Cruciatus curse, forcing the target to reveal their role, even if they are investigation immune.

- Lucious Malfoy, allowed 1 time use of the Imperius curse, effectively switching the target's allegiance.

- Barty Crouch Jr, a normal Deatheater with no special abilities.

- Peter Pettigrew (aka Wormtail), a normal Deatheater with no special abilities.



Pro-Town:

- Albus Dumbledore, allowed to use 4 abilities, but only once each (roleblocking, investigating, healing and double voting); immune to the Imperius curse

- Harry Potter,  roleblocker, immune to the Imperius curse and immune to being killed by Lord Voldemort (mafia kill immune); cannot roleblock same player twice in a row

- Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger, cops, allowed to carry out one investigation during each night phase under cover of the Invisibility Cloak. If they investigate Voldemort or Lupin, they will get a false result showing him as a normal townie.

- Severus Snape,  doctor, can heal one player each night; cannot heal the same player twice in a row, cannot heal himself.

- Secret Role #1

- Secret Role #2

- 12 normal students

Neutral:

- Remus Lupin in werewolf form, serial killer, can kill one target each night; is immune to investigation but CAN be killed at night; cannot be cured by the doctor






PLAYERS:
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1) Gwynedd - Severus Snape (Doctor) - Lynched - Day 1
2) Torqez - Ron Weasley (Cop) - Killed by Mafia - Night 1
3) Undeath -
4) KT -
5) I like pie - Student - Killed by Mafia - Night 2
6) Remo -
7) TBO - Student - Lynched - Day 3
8) EvilRunt -
9) Poley -
10) Oxygen -
11) HydroP - Student - Killed by SK - Night 2
12) RD -
13) Wendy - Student - Killed by Mafia - Night 4
14) Airwing - Student - Killed by SK - Night 3
15) Dangerous -
16) xara -
17) TU - Student - Killed by Mafia - Night 3
18) Nolio - Hermione Granger (Cop, role redistributed) - Night 2
19) SSL -
20) Walking_Corpse - Student - Killed by SK - Night 4
21) Primo - Albus Dumbledore - Killed by Mafia - Night 4
22) Ramza - Student - Killed by SK - Night 1
23) Flint - Dobby (secret role) - Lynched - Day 2
24) James -
25) Revenant -

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

*** RULES ***

- Your objective is to rule Hogwarts; to do this, you must eliminate your opposing faction.

- Mafia is allowed 1 kill each night; they will win if they kill all pro-town roles, students and the serial killer

- Town will win if they kill all Mafia members and the serial killer

- The serial killer is allowed 1 kill each night; he wins if he kills everyone else and is the sole standing survivor

- Each day phase, every Hogwarts resident must vote for whoever they think should be handed to the Dementors; this person will die and no longer be a part of the game

- In the event of a tie in the number of votes at the end of dayphase, there will be an extended period of 1 hour for players to change their votes, should they wish to do so; if at the end of the extended period the tie still persists, BOTH players will be lynched; if a player missed the original voting deadline he will NOT be able to cast his vote during the extended period

- You cannot miss two votings in a row; should this happen, you will be immediately removed from the game, and lynch will still commence based on voting.

- You are NOT allowed to make public the message sent you by the writers to tell you your role, either entirely or in part; should this happen you will be removed from the present game and possibly future editions as well. You can share what your information means, but you cannot share exact text.

- Once you're dead, you're dead. Do no talk about the game to still active players, or post in the forum thread. This will be considered an act of influence upon the remaining players, and will get you banned from future games. We all like to have fun, and play by the rules, so please keep that in mind.

***********

Order of Night Time Activities:

- Roleblock (In this order if relevant: Dumbledore then Potter)
- Healing (In this order if relevant: Dumbledore then Snape)
- Pro-town secret role #1
- Pro-town secret role #2
- SK Kill
- Mafia Kill
- Investigation (In this order if relevant: Dumbledore, Ron/Hermione, then Belatrix)
- Imperius curse

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Oooh

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

GAME STARTED

*****************************************************

Everyone with a night time role has until 03:00 GMT on Monday to send their decisions to the Writers!

They can be reached ingame as follows:

Arbolio 7820
Genesis 7821

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Ok so after some thought...

My new strategy


Everyone gets 1 vote. Player a votes for player b, player b votes for player c, player d votes for player e.  We tie the vote. Mafia will want to avoid this as they like controling the votes. We force them to dance our dance, or to reveal themselves.

Tie must be broken afterwards, but we then direct it on missing playerz.

Now hear me out on the 2nd part. We want townies to survive. We NEED townies to survive. Prolonging the game works in OUR favor. So we force votes onto missing people. This way we can keep town loss lower.

Ofc if we have a clue who is mafia, we make our accusation clear and vote them in tie breaking vote.

This also gives us a special advantage. Late game if dumbledore still lives and mafia still hides then he can make his spare vote happen disrupting harmony but secretly and therefore not killing himself on accident tongue

This means one vote could be ours with 1 (or more if cops found him) people not at risk.


Alternatively we can choose 4 people to get tie votes. Watch for patterns of voting especially if suddenly someone votes to break the tie. Spare votes can be thrown away, thus keeping ties. Watch for people who nay say this or other sound strategies. 10 to 1 they are mafia.

With this method first poster chooses a player, next number of players also vote that one. Then a second player is selected. This way if mob tries to pick who is selected... they will stand out. This makes it harder on them

So if 25 players voting first phase, player 1 chooses player a, next 5 players all vote a. Player 7 then picks player b and 5 more vote b. Player 13 votes c as does 5 more... and player 19 and 5 more vote for d. Player 25, if not missing vote, does a throw away vote.



The first method helps us find inactives easily. A who to vote for list can be generated by any townie making all votes work.

The second method makes it easier to track voting patterns for egg heads like Pie and Torqez. As I am usually driving a semi I am not going to be a good egghead.
_______________________________

Our cops need to use a double blind system with the risk of a player changing sides. Aka one cop investigates per night, he does not tell other cop who he investigated. Each cop runs his own team only reporting who was revealed townie but died. Only the first two people checked should be exempt from this a little. They should know the first person in the other team in case their cop dies. Each team should know their full team but maybe fake who is cop in one team and not the other team... or some other method of fakery.


________________________

Albus Dumbledore should investigate day 2 or 3 not day 1, or maybe he should wink

In any event use it early or risk losing it. If you find a mafia man, use your extra vote to kill him on a tie. If you find a townie then hope you or him get investigated, then the cops get a freebie! And if he finds of the two enemy roles (provided the enemy has not used his power) he can also try to roleblock.


___________________________

Yes there is some complexity in this stuff, but doing the right thing helps tons! Let us all hex the heck out of those evil witches and warlocks!



Now for me to be quiet and not to annoy the player group, lol

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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

^^^
Everything he says screams that he is mob.

Insanity and genius are closely related!
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Yes because I would make a strategy for townies to win with because I am mafia.... suuuure.

If I was mafia I would do another statistics thingy only with more validation (but secretly biased). Nope I am townie.

But as I said... Evil haters will be evil haters. So which evil warlock are you?

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

"Our cops need to use a double blind system with the risk of a player changing sides. Aka one cop investigates per night, he does not tell other cop who he investigated. Each cop runs his own team only reporting who was revealed townie but died. Only the first two people checked should be exempt from this a little. They should know the first person in the other team in case their cop dies. Each team should know their full team but maybe fake who is cop in one team and not the other team... or some other method of fakery."

Our cops only have 1 investigation per night, not 1 investigation each, so I do not see how this will work...



The tieing up stuff sounds odd as well. How are we going to get info about voting patterns when we make agreements to tie up? Waiting longer will only allow more night phases to pass. This would allow us to get more investigations in, but mind you every night 2 people will be killed (very likely townies). We might run out of time before we get enough investigations...

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Not logical reasoning sir.

There will still be the same number of day and night stages.

However if we find an inactive and lynch him, statistically speaking, save on active townie from being lynched.


On the voting.

If the mob tries to dominate the choosing it will be obvious. They only have 4 members after all. At 1 day and 2 night deaths the game is over on day 8. Any attempt to dominate all 8 days would be so apparent as to be crazy.

Think on it... the last thing they want to see is townie and mobbie up for lynch, they try very hard to get townie versus townie. This makes it harder for them to control. Indeed for the first 4 days possibly they won't have any chance at all.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Except that when you explain the strategy like this they will know and just cooperate tongue.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Exactly what they do not wish to do.

This weakens them if they play along, it dramatically increases the odds that we can get mafia on random lynches and that's how you get them worried.



Re: Cop comment

Night 1 cop A investigates
Night 2 cop B investigates
Night 3 cop A investigates

If we kill the mobby who role changes the cops can reveal the whole of detected people (but keep roles secret....) as pro town or mafia but the groups only know their cop

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

dpenguins

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjjO_lhf9c

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

dpenguins!

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Einstein wrote:

Exactly what they do not wish to do.

This weakens them if they play along, it dramatically increases the odds that we can get mafia on random lynches and that's how you get them worried.



Re: Cop comment

Night 1 cop A investigates
Night 2 cop B investigates
Night 3 cop A investigates

If we kill the mobby who role changes the cops can reveal the whole of detected people (but keep roles secret....) as pro town or mafia but the groups only know their cop

I just woke up... but what?? hmm

You want cops to keep to themselves their investigations, so simply if one gets killed off we lose all that info that theyve acquired? Sounds pretty pro mafia to me!

"I lie down next to an angel, fall asleep and fly with the demons"
I once prayed to god for some planets, but quickly found out he didnt work that way

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Nope

Cop 1 investigates Player A, player A will be told all of Cop 2's investigations but not who cop 2 is
Cop 2 investigates Player B who will be told all of cop 1's investigations but not who cop 1 is.


If a cop dies all investigations go to him.

The only weak point is if a cop and his 'knower' die and this resolves it by cross coverage from the first two. If a knower dies the cop will have to designate a new knower.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Are you trying to get a cop killed? If they dunno who each other are they could vote to have them lynched.. bad idea is bad!

~~Lemming of leather and lollipops~~

Right, so what are we waiting for?  Can we get this going?  Any other feedback?

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

The cops will obviously already know who eachother is.

This tries to give them protection against GF and anyone changed in alliance.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Einstein wrote:

Nope

Cop 1 investigates Player A, player A will be told all of Cop 2's investigations but not who cop 2 is
Cop 2 investigates Player B who will be told all of cop 1's investigations but not who cop 1 is.


If a cop dies all investigations go to him.

The only weak point is if a cop and his 'knower' die and this resolves it by cross coverage from the first two. If a knower dies the cop will have to designate a new knower.

Then you could be potentially giving SK info that will get us all killed?

/smh

"I lie down next to an angel, fall asleep and fly with the demons"
I once prayed to god for some planets, but quickly found out he didnt work that way

20 (edited by Poley 04-Feb-2013 03:11:42)

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Edit: Spam

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Render, Ive posted in your bugs thread. I need better feedback, kgo!

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

- Crutio!

Bellatrix Lestrange kept practicing her favorite Unforgivable Curse on anything that moved. Her latest victim was a poor mice which happened to be roaming the wrong place of Hogwarts' castle, at the wrong time. Her eyes were shining as she tortured her victim, just like she had done to Longbottoms years ago, driving them to insanity.
The Death Eaters were gathered in the Slytherin common room, keeping the appearence of simple 3rd year students.

- Stop it! We have more importants things to do than waste our energy on rats! - Lucius Malfoy was very nervous. Ever since professor Dumbledore had alerted the school to the presence of Death Eaters, Malfoy couldn't control his restlessness. - If Dumbledore manages to catch us, we're all going to Azkaban! I don't know about you, but I don't plan on being fed to the Dementors! We should have never come here!

- Be quiet, Malfoy! How dare you question the Dark Lord's decisions? I should teach you your place, the same way I did to that rat!

As Lucius Malfoy grabbed his own wand, another figure spoke:

- Put down your wands, both of you!

- My lord, he's a traitor! He will give us all up to save himself!

Lord Voldemort examined the look on Lucius Malfoy's face. He looked right into his eyes, and slowly walked away.

- No, my faithful Bellatrix. Lucius may not be the epitome of courage, but his heart is loyal to me. I understand his concerns, Dumbledore seems to be getting very close to discovering our true identities, and we must not let this happen. However, an attack on the Headmaster himself is dangerous, as he is no doubt well protected. We must act differently tonight.

- Let me go, my lord, tell me who to kill! I will make them all regret the day they refused you as their master!

- No Bellatrix, I will take care of this myself. I have a very personal message to send to the Boy Who Lived...

*********

(Many hours later)

- Come on Ron, keep up!

Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger had decided they couldn't stay quiet any longer. Using Harry's Invisibility cloak, they had decided they would go out every night to investigate Hogwarts and try to find who the cursed Death Eater's true identities were.

- I've told you Hermione, we can't possibly both fit inside the Cloak! We need to split up and take our chances!

- That's insane Ron! What if they find us?

- Well if they do, I'll teach them! Now you go this way and I'll go that way!

Ron suddenly jumped out from under the Cloak and ran into the cover of the night.

Ronald Weasley get back here! - shouted Hermione, but to no avail -  Oh, what a hardeadheaded fool!

**********

- I'll teach them, I will! - Ron muttered words of vengeance to himself as he walked past proessor Snape's Potions classroom - they are going to regret killing our friends!

- Are you sure, young Weasley?

Ron turned around, just in time to witness Lord Voldemort disapparating before his very eyes.

- You! I'm going to kill you for what you did to our friends! Where are you?? Show yourself villain!!

Ron looked at every direction, and just as he started running to tell Harry what he had seen, he was blasted into the air by a powerful curse. Ron tried to move, but his limbs weighed a thousand tons. He tried to scream, but his lips were sealed. However, he could see the Dark Lord apparating before him, from within a cloud of black smoke.

- You are much too young, Weasley, and it hurts me to take the life of a Pure Blood. But you have kept some bad companies, and now you must pay for your treachery to your race! AVADA KEDAVRA!

Ron pleaded with his eyes, but Voldemort was not moved. A jet of green light emanated from Voldemort's wand and hit Ron square in the chest, instantly killing him

- First your friends, but soon it will be your turn, Harry Potter. Your fate awaits you.

**********

(In the morning)

- Professor Dumbledore, please come fast!

- What is it??

- It's Torqez Weasley, professor! He... He's been killed!


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Ramza wasn't a very particularly bright student, but he loved Hogwarts and was a proud member of Dumbledore's Army. He stayed behind, while the rest of the students fled home. He wouldn't be any use in his Muggle home, so if he was to make any difference in this fight, it would have to be on Hogwarts grounds. He wanted to help find the Deatheaters, but didn't know where to turn to. He had decided to just start out on his own, and see what he could come up with. Unfortunately, it didn't take long before he came across something suspicious in the corridor.

Remus Lupin wasn't a bad man. In fact, he was quite proud of his role in the Order of the Pheonix. He had come to Hogwarts to help protect the school from the Deatheaters and Dementor's alike. Unfortunately, he also had a 'different' side to him, that he had no control over. He would take preventive measures, but during the night, he wasn't to be messed with or trusted. Unfortunately, this night he was off chasing a Dementor away from the edge of the Forbidden Forest, when he realized how late it had gotten.

He took off and ran full speed for Hagrid's hut, but did not make it to safety in time. His howls could be heard for miles, as he transformed into his full werewolf form. Smelling fresh prey, he sprinted towards Hogwarts, and crashed through the door. Inside the hallway stood a shocked Ramza. Before Ramza could mutter a word for any defensive spell, Lupin lunged forward and took a full mouth of Ramza's neck. With his immensely powerful jaws, he quickly snapped them shut, and popped Ramza's head clean off his body, still with a shocked expression on his face.

The werewolf lapped up the blood of his kill, and ate until his fill, before stalking back off into the night to get a good run in and stretch his legs after a beautiful meal.


************


It is now DAY PHASE - you have until 15:00 GMT to cast your vote!

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Frack.

Well crud... 23 left, if we do the 4 way tie thats 4 votes apeice with 3 throw aways

I vote Gwynedd

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Voting Nolio, if for no other reason than it's what I always do first vote!

<@Nick> it always scares me when KT gets all dominatrixy
* I_like_pie is now known as pie|bbl
<@KT|afk> Look at him run!
<@Nick> if you tell him to slap you and call you mommy
<@Nick> i'm leaving and never coming back

Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

As per my comments in the chat, Einstein is either the most retarded townie ever or mafia. We have shown time and again killing inactives saves us nothing, it gives the mafia free kills. We've shown time and again if we waste lynches mafia win. Yet his plans would ultimately lead to a town loss. Further, in the event of a draw BOTH die, so if for example we have a 4 way draw we have 4 deaths.

Effectively, if he is mafia he is a good lynch, if he is a townie he is too retarded to live.

I'm voting Einstein.

Insanity and genius are closely related!
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Re: Mafia 36: welcome to Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry!

Voting Einstein

Sex without the e is still SX!