Re: "Assault" Rifles and leftist ignorance

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2013/01/18/politifact-yes-more-people-murdered-with-knives-body-parts-and-blunt-objects-than-rifles-in-2011/

More people are killed by hammers, hands and feet, and knives than with all rifle types.

Ofc rifles are needed to stop a tyranny so maybe it's not ignorance but deliberate scheming.

Ofc handguns kill far more people but Obama and the left seem to think a 7 bullet maximum there will stop people from doing their killings.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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guns dont kill people! i kill people!!

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjjO_lhf9c

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In 1898 the US Army decided to raise 3 regiments of volunteer "cavalry" - though they fought as infantry - for fighting Spain in Cuba.  Roosevelt's "Rough Riders" were volunteers from all 50 states who argued the Army into giving them regular issue carbines - at first they were going to buy their own rifles - and they took with them 2 "colt automatic guns" - Browning M1895 'potato digger' machine guns in 8mm Mauser.   

The machine guns were purchased by two of the guys from New York.  They weren't issued by the Army.

Roosevelt said the "colt automatics" were generally a pain in the ass (i paraphrase) because they took about 8 mules themselves and broke down repeatedly. Until they ran into a concealed Spanish battery hiding next to a hospital, and then they brought up their machine guns and shot the hell out of it, saving their own selves and the regular Army units next to them.

Yes.  The 2nd Amendment means owning your own machine guns.

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The current debate about "assault weapons" is steeped in ignorance and treason.

When the Bill of Rights was written, people had muskets.  That's a metal tube with a wood frame, and you poured a measure of black powder down the tube, then rammed a ball down the barrel on top of it.  More or less that's the whole history of black powder arms.  Smaller weapons like revolvers use less scoops of powder.  Different caliber weapons take a different size ball, made of lead; you can melt the lead with a wood fire and cast the bullets in a handheld mold.  You can do that on the battlefield, like the Revolutionaries on Bunker Hill.

So it don't matter if 10,000 guys show up with 12 different types of musket, you can make that work, because you custom load every musket.

Flash forward to the modern era.  You don't use black powder.  Cartridges use explosive threads or gel, and they're made at the factory, and the bullet is harder metal cast at the factory.  Nobody in their right mind tries to handload outdoors.  If 10,000 guys show up with 12 different types of rifle, you're screwed.  You have to keep Ammo Type F with the troops with Rifle F. 

For this reason, the US Govt decided that it would be great if all state militias used US military ammo.  And the way to do that was to buy guns and ammo for them.  And so the National Guard was born.

It doesn't obliterate the "militia" mentioned by the Founders, which did a lot more than just repel invasion or fight with the regular Army.  That portion of the "militia" aimed to do that, is now federally organized.

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Also, skipping from the musket to the modern breech-loading magazine rifle:

you have the deer rifle.  The deer rifle is there to put a hard metal slug into a deer.  The slug stays intact.  The shooter is about a kilometer from the deer, which is too far away to smell or see or hear. And he shoots, and the ammo is powerful enough to be accurate to within a few centimeters from a kilometer away, and throw a bullet halfway into a deer, and blow out its organs.  One shot, one kill.   One does not spray and pray at a deer.   You aim each shot carefully, and often use a small telescope on the rifle.

Around this platform, armies built the battle rifle.  The battle rifle is a deer rifle with more ammo storage.  Usually troops just used "iron sights" without a scope to aim.  Most battle rifles were "bolt-action" like the deer rifle, though a few were "semi-automatic" meaning the rifle reloaded itself.

People who fought commies noticed, first the Nazis and then US in Korea, that commies didn't really sit a kilometer away and trade carefully aimed shots at you.  Commies like to run up on you in big groups, and fire burp guns loaded with weaker pistol ammo, and throw grenades. Commies are liable to be a couple hundred meters away before you know they're attacking you.  And if you just sit and shoot at them with battle rifles, you're in trouble, because Commies shoot their weaker burp guns faster and more often than you do.  Then your guys iwth the battle rifles either die, or, get rescued by incredibly expensive and precious tanks and aircraft.  It costs a lot to do that, so, generals thought, it would be a lot better if the average rifleman could just dispose of commies himself.

So they invented the assault rifle.  The assault rifle is weaker than a deer rifle.  It can't shoot a deer with one shot from a kilometer away.  It's stronger than a burp gun, though, and it's as fast as a burp gun.  It holds more ammo.  It's for shooting down Commies running at you with rapid-fire pistols and grenades before they can get into range to be really accurate, and often enough, that they give up and stay away.  NATO pretends that soldiers don't need to shoot farther than 400m, really, because NATO pretends they can always get back in their armored truck and engage enemies further off iwth the machine gun, which is a fully-automatic deer rifle.  The guys on the mountaintops of Afghanistan or stranded in Mogadishu had another story, but, those bastards don't buy rifles for NATO.

What it comes down to, politically, is that I am instructed I don't need a wicked mean assault rifle like the AR15 -- I can make do with a Springfield M1903, or a Gewehr 98k, or a Lee-Enfield Mark 3 military collectible, which is not an "assault weapon" even if it could knock the lungs out of a deer at a kilometer.  That's a 'safer' gun.

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And putting aside the military theory or the American history -- I mean if you get it wrong, you're stupid, but just skip it a minute:

You hear about "unwritten rules"?  We have written rules.  It's called the Constitution, and it has rules about changing the Constitution, and if you have a change that people like, it takes about 6 months.  And whatever you think about gun ownership, it's in the Constitution.  Don't like it, just go ahead and amend it.

If you're going to tear up the Constitution, then, we can start dealing with the fact that we can't be made to obey an unconstitutional government, any more than I can be compelled to be a Scientologist.

I'm starting to hear that "all rights have limits", which has me wondering what torture I can be put to, or what property can be seized without compensation, or what felonies I can be convicted of without a jury trial, or how many troops can be quartered in my home without my consent, or what unreasonable bail can be set.  It's just babble.  You might as well say "I don't care about my rights, so, take them away" as say "All rights have limits".

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Wow I found a sore spot with Chris yikes

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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i akm lefthanded, what's your [blam] problem???

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> dpenguins wrote:

> guns dont kill people! i kill people!!


guns dont kill people, bullets do"!

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> Einstein wrote:


More people are killed by hammers, hands and feet, and knives than with all rifle types.


bekause they want to save ammo!!!!! yikes

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The problem with the second amendment to the US Constitution is that people like Einstein "defend" it.

The difference between him and the grateful slaves who want all guns banned is the ideology of their parents.

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I like yell's version personally.... it sounds suspiciously like: "I am secure in my sexuality so I don't need a big gun, especially since a semi-automatic machine gun would be shit when i and my kind rise up and take over the world..."

Meanwhile Flint and Kemp will continue the dick flopping contest....

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"semi-automatic machine gun"

Hahaha. Thanks for your enlightened opinion.

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Good to see you understand my post Kemp.... it is good to have an appreciative audience

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There is no such thing as a semi-automatic machine gun. Nobody understands your post because it doesn't make sense.

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Kemp: try to think about my post and what i was actually saying...

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there IS a semiautomatic Machinepistole though

and a Browning Automatic rifle that is semiautomatic

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that guy in the movie In the Line of Fire made his own gun that passed through metal detectors

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjjO_lhf9c

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i want to make a thriller about an assassin

in my movie the assassin is so shrewd that the hero cops are suspended for even talking about an assassin doing what the assassin is realyl doing, but , the brass don't believe he even exists so they suspend the heros for going on and on about him

so the assassin is doing his assassiny things

and the heros are having coffee, and you know the best ideas come to you while having a donut after some asshat suspends you.  funny how that works cause you'd think they'd be hiring a workplace rights attorney but no they are good cops so they stay focused on what isn't their job anymore

and they figure out where the assassin was, and they go there, and he has all his stuff laid out and pinned to the wall, because he was going ot clean up later after he was being an assassin, cause he's a freaking assassin not a butler

and so they know the whole assassination plan just in the nick of time, only he's Out There Right Now

so they pick up the phone and call somebody else, and then they go write up their report and hire a workplace rights attorney.

I dunno if the assassin gets away with it, seems like that's not the point of the movie

If Mr. Malkovich would read this I owuld be so honored, even if he could explain why he didn't like it that would be helpful

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20 (edited by The Yell 28-Jan-2013 21:56:14)

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A man who police say knocked a young man and his teenage sister to the ground before jumping naked into Green Lake pleaded not guilty on Monday.
The man, whose real name remains a mystery even to police, has been charged with multiple counts of assault and resisting arrest in the Sept. 4 incident.
The 19-year-old victim suffered a broken finger and his younger sister had cuts and scrapes from what prosecutors say was a random attack.
"I was walking with my autistic sister and apparently I got jumped. I didn't see it coming," Daniel Gonzales said.
After pushing the siblings, the man "jumped into the water, started taking off all his clothes and starting swimming," said witness Susan Gillispie. "He just kept swimming across all the way, and he was hanging on a buoy."
Police officers in boats and a diver in the water spent several hours trying to convince the man to surrender before he was finally taken into custody. Some of the assault charges stem from alleged attacks against the officers.
The man is being held in the King County Jail in lieu of $25,000 bail.


Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/local/komo/article/Naked-Green-Lake-man-pleads-not-guilty-3872198.php#ixzz2JJ0toUyB


i dont think the Founders expected us to be assaulted by a naked man shoving kids into lakes, and if they had, they'd be on the banks tearing their hair, yammering "Alack! For a magazine-fed firearm with which to despatch this miscreant! O happy posterity, that shall reap the benefit of Science and be endowed by such arms!"

actually on reflection, our Founders intended that such losers be hanged at age 9 before they hit puberty and did real Offense

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21 (edited by The Yell 29-Jan-2013 23:03:56)

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since Obama lied about "shooting skeet all the time" as proof he LIKES guns, you know, it's just they're BAD for you

Americans are now photoshopping guns into pictures of Obama

I like this one

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/assaultskeet.jpg

The New  Republic  was suckered into running this one as real

http://thisistwitchy.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/tnr-obama-shooting-skeet.png

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Our slave masters always go on about how we don't need "assault weapons" for hunting or self-defense.

No. (Overlooking the meaningless "assault weapons" term for now) We need them to defend ourselves from our slave masters, as is the clearly stated most important source of the right in the Constitution.

There should be a literacy exam before one can hold office.

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