Re: Fingerprints

Freedom ftw!

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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Its been a while since you have heard from me, so here's an update on the situation.

3 weeks ago I got the preliminary advise (A strong/firm suggestion) that the committee is giving too the city hall about this case.

Basically they agreed to me on all counts, except the main one, giving me a ID-card/Passport without prints/biometrics. With the reasoning there is no law that backs me up at this time and seeing the Justice court in Luxembourg hasn't come back with a ruling yet there is no jurisprudence? for me at this point in time.

So Past Tuesday (7 days ago). I received the result of the hearing. They just copied what I got from the committee and changed advise into verdict.

Soooooooooooo, here's the steps I can/will take,

Decision - government decides not to give me an ID card and they send me a letter to which you can send your appeal.
Objection - average length of 12 weeks.

(here's where I am atm)

Court - max 2 years
Higher court - max 3 years
European court for human laws. (whatever decision they make will be final and will be the same for all the separated cases)


I got 5 weeks left to turn in my appeal on the court level. I'm going for special circumstances to gain certain advantages. But I got a lot of research too do in order to play the game on the level it is being played with me.

I will keep you guys up to date, since in a way this is a stress outlet for me and who knows there might be a Dutchie with a law degree who plays IC and who wants to aid me smile

ps.
I got a friend who writes for the Dutch national paper. I sent him my story, he will wait for the right time and pass it too a colleague to print the story. Its about time I started using nepotism! big_smile

Amandla Awethu!

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

Re: Fingerprints

fight the power

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Sounds like a long road

"I was beginning to think you were afraid to fight."
"I'm just naturally lazy, but I will if I have to."

Retired

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he's got his whole life to live, might as well be free

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Reminds me of a State Motto "live free or die!"

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
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I reckon that when my countrymen were able to fight Spain for 80 years, while toying with Portugal, France and England....  I should be able to squeeze out the same, I will be a modern day "Piet Hein" kinda fool I guess =P


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Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

Re: Fingerprints

Things just got a lot more difficult^999 .....but the planned road to take will remain the same!

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

Re: Fingerprints

If you get through all this, and still demand fingerprints, just melt them off to spite the system

<KT|Away> I am the Trump of IC

Re: Fingerprints

Lille but of acid or regular use of a belt sander will do the trick.

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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I know...trust me I thought about it.

There's also been another couple of dark back doors I could have taken...normally I don't mind back doors but not in this situation

I could have:

- Used the 1 year valid ID-card escape which you can get if you got some (any) kind of medical issues with your hands which allows for a "temp" card..so next year you can give him! (I found a few responses of other Dutchies who faked that...wrapped their hands in bandages and got them, one guy even posted he just got his 2nd card and it he said he had the same desk worker as the year before and was hoping that by next year the law would have changed cuz he'd worry he couldn't trick her (or them) 3 times in a row.
- I could have given them under protest,( but I believe that would limit some options I could use/might have need of actually not 100% sure whatnot and all but not important some is enough to not do it:D) and think I also wouldn't be able to get myself in the courtroom.

I can't say I am an 100% honest person, but seeing this affects my future..the future of my life and whether it will be a bright one or one that will be lit by streetlights in a worst case scenario...so in this I must remain true cuz seeing all that I can't betray myself by wondering of the imo righteousness path I choose to take and not fuck myself in the bum for life, I'd make to much money giving HJ's MJ's RD's FS's in dark alleys behind the 7/11 where Arby3 lives (ask me if you wanna know the acronyms besides the obvious ones =P) oh and prolly the occasional TS since SerialBusiness thought me how to do that! big_smile

Yesterday I was at the "Palace of Justice" in The Hague, where my day in court will be, just to have a look and in a way explore it a lil so I will not feel so overwhelmed whenever that day will be. might trim my overwhelmness-level down from 800% OB to 99% FB

anyways after going through a metal detector (and strangely enough didn't get asked to show an ID or anything, just got patted down like I was getting sexually assaulted by the toilet safety administration when traveling abroad big_smile


anyways (again) after all that and a cried in the corner for 5 minutes I went up to the info desk to think of a way for them to allow me past he next horde (its tricky doing that without proper ID) so I was listening to some loud music as I walked up the info desk and (I thought a group of judges) crossed my path and one split of to the info desk and popped in line before me in the before (luckily) not existing waiting line since I got so much shit to do so always in a hurry =P he talked and sweettalked to the chick (woman) behind the desk and I kept banging my head so didn't hear anything but had a good look of his face...managed to got some pdf files to help me write and expand my appeal for court and went home cuz I was hungry

Lat night I checked my privacy related websites and the ones of ppl like me and spotted this

http://privacyfirst.nl/acties/proces-tegen-de-paspoortwet/item/609-privacy-first-daagt-nederlandse-staat-voor-hof-den-haag.html

checked the site from to to bottom checked the pics of the people who work there...and by freak accident that "judge" was one of the ^^ lawyers/caseworkers/ or whatever...so kinda didn't score a full and 100% lucky and helpful day but it was one a that ended high into the positive!

Today was even better, but its time for some leisure activities and as you can see trying to see the + in combination with a bag of midget poop from African midgets....seeing this post it must have been an African Medicine Wizard from presumably Moroccan decent big_smile

(remember to copy this post before you submit it numb nuts!)

Should at least end up for a good planned "quick" one minute update.... grammar comes whenever or my minion Zarf will do it for me! (Yes I am not under your spell anymore Zarfeyy! big_smile)

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

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*This might be the hot air talking in semi cryptic IC-mode[ON] but as long as I smoke (the peace pipe) I'll remain peaceful, you'll never see a fight in a coffee shop or have your stuff get stolen if you take a wizz meanwhile I'll remain physically fit so whenever I start my one man 5 for Vendetta movement whenever in IC talks I take down some IA'ing mofo's, I can out run a police car if my Achilles-heel-like-ankles can keep up =P

*yawns*


The faces that saw me
And the angles that warned me
They told me to run
And dispose of the gun
I could have escaped
Be gone with no trace
Instead I just stayed
Within societies gates

Cos I can run but I can

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

Re: Fingerprints

> Einstein wrote:

> I am for a national ID but against tracking or monitoring of ANY sort.


So you want to tag people and then not pay attention to the tags? Why bother tagging at all

<@Nick> it always scares me when KT gets all dominatrixy
* I_like_pie is now known as pie|bbl
<@KT|afk> Look at him run!
<@Nick> if you tell him to slap you and call you mommy
<@Nick> i'm leaving and never coming back

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> Walking Corpse wrote:

> > Einstein wrote:

> I am for a national ID but against tracking or monitoring of ANY sort.


So you want to tag people and then not pay attention to the tags? Why bother tagging at all



^^

lol Walking Corpse, indeed it seems Einstein didn't think while he wrote that down, haha, I bet it was posted by his alter ego Flint, thats the real math wizzkind, but only IC tech. apparently =P

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

Re: Fingerprints

BAMBAMBAMPOMPIEDOMPIEDOME.....POMPDIEDOMME! :d

----------------------

~~SEMI QUOTE BELOW~~

" Yeah! You know, technically, I'm not even really supposed to be here right now(LONG STORY)
So feck it, might as well make the most of it. Yeah, haha, guess I'm lucky! big_smile


Shite! I feel like I can do anything now, hummm feel good!
Whooo! Some of us don't get a second chance. But I ain't blowing this one!
Shite I feel like I can do anything now. hummm feel good! Whooo!

Who can catch lightning in a bottle? Set fire to water? Comin' out the nozzle on the fire hose, flier than swatters?
I Smash an hourglass, grab the sand, take his hands and cup 'em, Spit a rhyme to freeze the clock, take the hands of time and cuff 'em.

There's a storm comin' that the weather man couldn't predict, I start the bug prick, you better flee cause I get ticked!
It's a rap, I was down, when I was down I was kicked. I got up I'm back to punch ya to the ground, ya trick,
It's a trap, fuck my last appeal that shits in my trash, I be God-damned if another paperpusher gets in my ass, I hit the gas and I spit every eloquent rhyme as if it's my last.
You can die in the blink of an eye, so bat ya eyelashes, And keep winking and blowin' kisses 'cause you're flirting with death!
I'm destroying your livelihood. I ain't just hurtin' your rep', I catch a flow and get goin'
No remorse I'm showin', ain't slowin' for no one, Knowin' there is nothin' you can do about it
Zeroin' on the target like a marksman,The target is you.
I shut ya lane down,Took ya spot, parked in it too,
Arsenic flow, lighter fluid, saliva what can ya do?
Go get ya crew to hype you up stand behind you like whoooo!

Blue and InSaNe yelling:
That boy's hot enough to melt Hell, burn Satan too:
Fry his ass, and put his ashes back together with glue,
See you can hate 'em, he don't blame you frankly he would too,
This game could I'll-afford to lose him, how bout you?

Now guess who (hey),
Here's a clue (hey),
He came to the ball in a wife beater, lost his Nike shoe,
It's in ya ass (hey),
He's in ya ass, he's all up in your psyche too,
Now what's his name?

Cinde-rella man,
It's The Sol Man
It's The Sol Man, (hey, hey)

If I had a time machine
I'd be The Sol Man!

Music is my time machine, so call me
The Sol Man,

Feck catching lightnin'
He struck it
Screamed "shut up! " at thunder,
Flipped the world upside down and made it rain upward

Rewound the future to the present, paused it don't ask how,
Fuck the past motherfucker he's the shit right now
He's The Sol Man

Send da feller Solly dane came to wrap the game up in cellophane,
Raise hell from hell he came,
But didn't come to bore you with the cinderella story,
Nor did he come to do the same,
Or can't afford to be a label in this day and age,
And at this stage of the game
Mediocrity can no longer be allowed to fly,
So say bye,
To the old H.I.
To the new, Que Sera
Consider it his last hurrah
Coup de grace
Raise 'em high in the sky,
Keep 'em up
Time to bring the place alive,
Thanks for being patient smile

I will make no more mistakes,
Shite my potato's baked,
Homie the veggies on my plate can fly,

My filet is smoking hasshite,
Yea fakegod the stakes are high
Shite I ain't even suppose to be here
By the grace of God,
The skin on my teeth
And the hair on my nuts I skated by,
Now y'all are on thin ice

With ankle weights I hate to lie,
How feckin' irritated are you?
How much in your face am I?
And ain't shite you can do but fear it
Proof is here in spirit and
And I'm the spittin' image
I'll mirror it
When I stand near it,
Your pussycat lyric,
I can't hear it,
Who forms pyramids and raps circles around square lyricists?

Who?
Here's a clue.
He came to the ball in his wife beater,
Lost his nike shoe,
It's in ya ass, he's in ya ass, he's all up in ya psyche too.
Now, what's his name?

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I turned in my appeal at the higher appeals court on the 3rd of January, 40 min before the time my deadline would pass to turn it in, 4 pages appeal, 26 so called productions/documents/sources that make my case as a whole. So seeing I need more time I turned it in as an so called "Pro Forma higher appeal". It more or less means I asked/got the right to add, supply them with a more workout out version (max 4 weeks).

So 50 pounds of stone I dropped of my shoulder, I'll up a picture of it all on the desk in court in a lil =P (keep in mind I did 99,99% on my own)

So what now?

I was about to celebrate it all worked out when I walked out the Palace of Justice, I see 2 tv-crew vans with the name of the channel on it parked on the street, in short I asked them what tv show it was, "Recht van Nederland" van SBS6, spoke with Maureen du Toit (Dutchies will know here) exchaned cards etc and are in touch.

I continue my straw to the city centre CS. I get phoned by Privacy First, smartest guy I ever spoke with. He was offered the deal to research the "coming to be" be of the 2005 and 2009 Passport law changes(edits) and by research I mean he looked in every corner....which resulted in some shady stuff, longlonglonglong story. End of story tongue  Anyways, I went to see him the day after in Amsterdam, he payed/re-embursed my expensive, traveling,food, drinks and had a long 5h talk where I learned more than ever in my life and it was somewhat a relieve to someone who knew more about the case than humble little me smile

Also in contact with some other group called Vrijbit and about to hookup with another..I promise you I am not making this up...Nerds United haha lmao. I got my boy at the national paper ready, some other feelers and fishing lines out, just waiting for the best time to hook em when I feel the need to stop them nibble. smile

Am working on my def. version seeing I got 3 weeks max left now...but imo awkwardly enough no mail from the court room yet, this could be cuz all these fingerprints cases been put on hold cuz of the the Luxembourg thingy, which can take another 12 months. :S + whatever time after they decide to plan in my day in court..the better leave a couple weeks after open.. big_smile

Seeing the law of the ID card will be changed, in short it will drop the need for fingerprints...but still a chip, but chips are chips and I have always loved Donalds KFC Turkey Fried Chicken! big_smile So I can't get a job legally till that...well I CAN, but I would have to ask friends family to take a risk and I can't ask or accept that of them..so I do honest work(like in the old days) that enables me to pay my bills and have me some R&R from time to time, speaking of that... 4h left till a "Remember the Titans" like football camp with the boys

/me takes a 3 day vacation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTOVcREgDZ0
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ big_smile:D:D and as always, At your Service! wink

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

Re: Fingerprints

woot!

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

42 (edited by Xeno 14-Jan-2013 18:12:15)

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"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTOVcREgDZ0"

"This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

/me wants to watch that video.

How can I mask me IP so they don't know which country I am from?

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Proxy, but logging into IC from a proxy will get your account banned.

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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@ Xeno, you have proxy websites(just google those 2 words, proxy programs (g.e. HideMyIP) and the best one, the TOR network that really allows you to surf anonymously. But as Arby3 said when you got that running don't play IC smile

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here

Re: Fingerprints

I do not see a problem with a national ID that has your Name, Date of Birth, an Identification Number, and a Picture of you.

If that is all the National ID has then it is fine

Now if it has an: RFID, fingerprints, adress, and/or microchip for storing data... then I oppose

You should be able to move freely without needing to update your adress, no tracking should occur, no way should you carry data for the Government, finger prints should only be for those convicted of a crime or applying for a sensative position.


I currently have:
A Commercial drivers License (photo, name, hair color, eye color, adress, date of birth, sex, photo, bar code, height, weight, magnetic strip and expiratiion date)
Transportation Workers Identification Card (TWIC for short, my picture, a microchip, name, dob, expiration date)
Veterans ID (name, social security number, magnetic strip, photo)
Social Security Card (Social Security number, name)
Medical Card (Required for commercial drivers, name, adress, dob, sex, health clearance, expiration date).
Passport (card and book... barcode, magnetic strip, dob, name, adress, photo, other stuff)

Yes that's six (seven if you wish to say Passport Card and Passport book are seperate items) different Identifications I carry at a given time.


What I would like is one identification card for most of this. This card would have my name, photo, dob, sex, hair color, eye color, height, weight, Social Security Number, my State, my driving credentials (A class with tanker endorsement and doubles & triples endorsement), a bar code with ONLY information on the card on it (no magnetic strip, microchip, or rfid since those can be read at range with right equipment), a universal identification number (replacing all other numbers), an indication of Veterans and/or Handicapped status, special security clearances (replacing my TWIC card) and nothing else.

No address.... forcing us to register new adresses inside a State incurs a wrongful charge (and tracking ability) upon persons.

No means of tracking a person at all.



This would reduce my identification to two exactly... the National Identification and my Passport.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
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46 (edited by The Yell 31-Jan-2013 01:40:12)

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Obama would waive it for illegals

in fact I'm suprised he hasn't made a diamond lane for wetbacks on federal interstates

guess that's coming in march

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Fingerprints

http://www.welingelichtekringen.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/473100.jpg

^^ Happenend on the day to pope decided he needed more time for his kids.

So far the Queen announced she will resign and now the pope, who will fall next tick? big_smile

btw a specific update will follow later today/tonight.

Immigrants make a difference
We are all immigrants
We all make a difference
How are we all immigrants?
- Our souls are not from here