1 (edited by Einstein 29-Dec-2012 08:45:00)

Re: How to identify a Libertarian

This is for the Ron Paul types, there are others


1) When talking of Republicans and Democrats he lumps them together without pause, without second thoughts. Only his party is 'pure'.

2) When asked about a Government agency and his opinion his words are "End it".

3) When he has evidence Conservatives are different from  Establishment Republicans he ignores it, or pays lip service for amday or two before returning to diatribes.

4) Attempts to co-opt any successful Conservative based effort and then complains when the Conservatives leave.

5) Cannot name a good regulation

6) Thinks drugs are good.

7) Thinks blocking up votes, amd going on libertarian diatribes in really long book formats helps his cause.

8) Is scared of good miltiary policies

9) Thinks evil only exists due to our actions abroad

10) Has no problem with others not playing nicely so long as he thinks it does not affect him.


Libertarians need to ditch their beliefs, grow up, and see the world as it really is.

Boehner lost the tax hike not cause of Libertarian votes in the House of Representatives but because of Conservative votes in the House of Representatives.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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2 (edited by V. Kemp 29-Dec-2012 09:14:41)

Re: How to identify a Libertarian

"1) When talking of Republicans and Democrats he lumps them together without pause, without second thoughts. Only his party is 'pure'."

Both parties support massive deficits. Both parties support our corrupt tax system. Both parties support wars of foreign aggression. Both parties support the robbery of America's poor and middle class via the inflationary policies of the fed, which enrich only government and bankers.

No Libertarian on this forum or anywhere else that I've seen has employed the fallacious logic of labeling Liberals/Conservatives nor Democrats/Republicans as "impure" or anything remotely like it.

The rest of your statements are similarly dishonest, juvenile, and idiotic. If you're ready for a real exchange, perhaps try responding to the actual thoughts of those you disagree with. Your collection of straw-men here is worthless and insulting, not just to Libertarians, but to every honest reader and poster of this forum.

I'm not going to press the report button. Trolling is better combated via community awareness. This is trolling. It's not honest. Einstein knows very well that literally every idea he ascribes here to Libertarians is not what they believe. I could explain factually why Libertarians don't believe a single thing Einstein here claims they believe and states his disagreement with, but that would just be rewarding a troll with attention.

"Boehner lost the tax hike not cause of Libertarian votes in the House of Representatives but because of Conservative votes in the House of Representatives."

None of the Tea Party representatives newly elected into the House was elected because of his views on abortion or homosexuals. In fact, many were elected because these issues were not given attention and their views on them didn't matter. Their views which had them vote down a tax hike are in line with Libertarian views.

Additionally, so what? People like you support the Fed's robbery of America, the bedroom police, and the body police. Your view is that the federal government should waste money and lives failing an attempt to police what people put in their bodies. Your view is that the federal government has a role in our bedrooms (IMHO, that's creepy, btw). Your view is that the Fed should keep robbing the poor and middle class, because you don't understand what it does anyway so who cares?

The fact that tens of millions of people are willfully ignorant and, frankly, not very bright says absolutely nothing about Libertarian ideology, thought, practice, or governance. Libertarian representation in our federal government is an indication of votes and voters, not the merits of their thoughts. This is a textbook appeal-to-a-majority fallacy and not logical argumentation. The fact that there aren't Libertarians in the House, let alone enough to vote down this garbage, is the fault of voters, not Libertarian ideas.

The relevant fact here is that Libertarians would have voted against tax hikes just as the Conservatives you loud did. Another relevant fact is that Conservatives, who supposedly have much better representation in federal government, haven't done anything about our horrible tax system or the Fed's robbery of the American people. By pointing out Conservatives' superior representation to Libertarians' in federal government, you're highlighting the fact that much of our debt is their fault, they condone the robbery of the Fed, and they support our corrupt tax system in which the poor and middle class are squeezed for every dime while the wealthy avoid things like the estate tax.

Please stop trolling. Aren't you better than that? Answer's up to you.

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Re: How to identify a Libertarian

Einstein doesn't wish to understand. He has pigeon holed himself into a GOP stereotype. He's become the Sean Hannity of this forum. Some day, he may give things a second look and realize some nugget of truth that his socio-economic blinders have prevented him from seeing. But I'm afraid that with the wisdom of age, he may only grow even more fervent in his unrelenting, unquestioning support of Republicans. It's not his fault for wanting to believe the Matrix is real, it's merely the most comfortable mode of existence for him. Any other perceptions of reality must be absolutely terrifying.

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Re: How to identify a Libertarian

He won't talk about any actual Libertarian positions, just this fictional nonsense which he can muster a response to.

He won't talk about the Fed and its robbery of America.

He won't talk about our corrupt tax code.

He won't talk about the fact that we're engaging in military operations in parts of the globe where we have literally no interests.

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5 (edited by The Yell 30-Dec-2012 01:11:09)

Re: How to identify a Libertarian

11) he farts and argues why you should breathe it


I don't think "Literally" means "yeah but, I don't like them, so, they don't count"

as in

The Lakers have literally no players on their team

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: How to identify a Libertarian

It seems that everyone thinks they have it all figured out.  I mean I get it, why wouldn't the thoughts in your own head be correct?  Why would you think incorrect thoughts?  It kind of reminds me of some religious people who think their religion is the absolute truth, that by some miracle they were born into a family that just so happened to practice the 1 of 5000 religions that was correct, granting them a ticket to heaven and eternal bliss, while the rest of the earth is damned to hell.

So before everyone gets all self righteous- have some humility.  Odds are you are wrong... Keep your mind open and don't close it in fear of learning some ideology you hold so dear may in fact be false. (also, ready my sig)

Never rule out the possibility that you are a complete idiot

Re: How to identify a Libertarian

Entirely possible Pickle, but you too are probably wrong.

Re: How to identify a Libertarian

^ I would count on it smile

Never rule out the possibility that you are a complete idiot

Re: How to identify a Libertarian

Every Man For Himself!

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