Re: Mafia XXXIV - It's a Pok

Allow me to explain. I am accusing the makers of light favoritism, they are human it happens. So allow me to make notes for each player.

1.    Arby3 65% likely to be a major role
2.    EvilRunt 5% major role, 25%mafia
3.    Genesis 55% major role, 50% mafia
4.    Gwynedd 15% major role
5.    I_Like_Pie 25% major role
6.    Insane     - (Normal Pokemon - Killed by Professor Oak) 15% major role
7.    KT - when she and Wendy are playing a 95% chande one of them has a role and a 65% chance for both. Alome she is 85% likely to be mafia or a special role.
8.    Metrex 10% chance special role, 35% chance mafia
9.    Oxygen normal odds
10.    Poley elevated odds but not significantly
11.    Primo  - (Jigglypuff protown secret role - Killed by Evil Pokemon) 75% special role, who would not make him special?
12.    Ramza higher odds mafia
13.    Einstein 5% special role as i will be one of those removed from prior to the start. 5% chance mafia.
14.    Sickness - dont know him well enough yet
15.    SSL dont know him well enough yet
16.    Star99 lower odds townie special, higher odds mafia
17.    The_Unknown higher odds something than a townie
18.    TheBigOne higher odds something than a townie
19.    Torqez significantly higher odds of nota normal townie


Basically I am saying they say "that person would be a bad sk, and that group is op and that one weak, need to tweak, this person here will make the game more fun. I am not to upset, it allows my skills to work.

The number of times I have beena normal townie confirms this, as well as other statistical flukes. The odds may not be perfectly representational but for our purposes it does not need to be. When I am lynched by rightful anger please lynch these people: KT, Genesis, Gwyenn, Arby3, Ramza, and Torqez

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> Oxygen wrote:

> When I was in chat earlier, ER was going crazy, not Gwyn. Did I miss something?

I'll vote Gwyn for now, but Flint's crappy logic could indicate that he's mob too. I hate first vote sad


So basically, Oxygen doesn't think I'm mob, that it was ER going rank, but is voting me anyway. Keep that in mind for who might be mob.

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*****unofficial vote count*****

Gwynedd - [3] - (TBO, EvilRunt, Oxygen)
Einstein - [2] - (Arby, KT)
KT - [1] - (Einstein)
Torqez - [1] - (Gwynedd)

Still to Vote: [10] Genesis, I_Like_Pie, Metrex, Poley, Ramza, Sickness, SSL, Star99, The_Unknown, Torqez
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Oxygen is mob.

Thats a crap play as I ever saw.

The mob knows I am an easy lynch so they go for a harder one.

Oxygen sets the match on a gang up bomb in a clear and obvious move.


I vote Oxygen right now.

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Doh, added gwyenn to mafoa list. He is 2nd safest bet in the game.

Meamt to say Metrex... and make a safe bet section with Gwyenn and me

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Well, I'm off to bed. No one has been around over the last several hours to be convinced otherwise, but I am a normal pokemon. I currently suspect Torqez, Evilrunt, Oxygen and KT, but there is something not right about Einstein also. Keep this in mind when I die and am revealed a normal pokemon. Given Einstein's attempts to get me to bandwagon on Oxygen with little basis (other than that he voted for me whilst saying he didn't think I was mafia) and given Einstein's fake stats he appears to be highly suspect.

For this reason I am voting for Einstein and going to sleep. If it turns out to be wrong, then sorry Einstein, but if it turns out to be right, then good.

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Throwing a vote on Metrex (Yes wasting a vote, plus its fun to chat with Metrex about it later big_smile) Going to sleep soon...

Einstein is acting rather defensively, and I shall keep an eye on it further when I catch him in chat next time. Also having me as elevated odds (higher than yourself) though I have no connections with the hosts, and is like my 2nd full round? hmm

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This is certainly an interesting start already.  My take so far:

Einstein, your numbers don't mean anything.  At best they represent some sort of hunch you have about everybody but objectively, mathematically, and statistically they are just pointless.  There are no "statistical flukes" as you say, and the game hosts are not favoring anybody.  Random is random, and if you want to talk statistics then I must point out that within a randomly chosen subset of a given sample the likelihood of a perfect balance is very low.  In other words, it is expected to see patterns that look unfair.

Your behavior thus far is strange to me, and inconsistent with past games.  I will admit that part of me thinks you are just being silly or playing a funny game for the sake of making things interesting.  However, a part of me also thinks that you are just playing a terrible SK role.  I considered the possibility of you being mob, but I would think that you and the other mobbies would have discussed eachother's posting tactics so that doesn't really seem likely to me either given that you're drawing so much attention so early.

I do think it would be regrettable to lynch any good townie, but at this point I think you're acting strange enough that you're a safe bet in my opinion.  The risk of mistake is always there but I just can't shake the feeling that something is off about your behavior so far, especially this early in the game.  Again, I think you're either playing a very strange townie role to shake things up, or you're playing SK poorly.  Neither is a good move IMO.


Oxygen, I don't understand why you would vote for Gwynedd while acknowledging Einstein's questionable logic.  I do get that first vote sucks and I normally don't like to make judgement calls so early either, but to also admit that ER was making more noise than Gwynedd but to vote for Gwynedd anyway seems questionable as well.  I'm not going to say that you seem mob to me, but I will say that your post is notable in my eyes.


As for Gwynedd, I've heard a few people so far talk about how agressive he is already.  I agree, and he also accused me of being mob already with very little reasoning.  However, after playing a few rounds I know that this is just what he does.  It's consistent with his behavior in other games and anybody who is rubbed the wrong way by it should consider that fact before letting emotions or defensiveness get the better of you.  I'm not saying he's not mob or sk, because he obviously could be.  Rather, I'm saying that what he's done so far is no different than what he's done before so in my mind that is not anything worth noting.  Not yet anyway.

My vote: Einstein

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Einstein,

overacting

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Take 70% as a decimal... 0.7

Then multiply it by itself many times

.07^7

Thats 8%

Now do the same for gwynn

Now .5 to 7th power

Odds one of the two girls is mafia or special role


Now multipky those times eachother


In binary this would be a one chance in 32 bits outcome for all the 'coincidences'. After a certain level statistics says 'not random but enemy action'

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my vote gose to Einstein as he overacting, also

16.    Star99 lower odds townie special, higher odds mafia


based on nothing.....looks like he is trying to blow smoke onto everyone but himself....

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Thats ok, when i am shown a townie the road map will be set up.

Game set match

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10.    Poley elevated odds but not significantly

i like it when poley is elevated, it means the freaky party is about to get started

It is easier to meet girl in park than to park meat in girl.

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pffft whos gonna provide for my pokekids sad

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ill vote for an elevated poley, but if he goes flaccid ill have to change my vote

It is easier to meet girl in park than to park meat in girl.

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Meh i hate math, flint loves math.

I vote Flint.

"Heh heh heh heh heh heh!"

Metrex

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I vote Flint/Einstein cause his "logic" makes no sense.

What do I have to work with?

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*****Official Vote Count*****


Einstein - [8] - (Arby, KT, Gwynedd, I like Pie, Sickness, Star99, Metrex, The Unknown)
Gwynedd - [3] - (TBO, EvilRunt, Oxygen)
Metrex

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I am going to vote for Gwynned I guess

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he'z probably innocent seeing the bandwagon,... changing my vote to one of the jumpers..

==>Metrex

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Remember townoes a game within a game under a game.

The guilty will show themselves quickest and with more anger. Lynch them and Oxygen ftw. Use what I have done as a tool. I drew them out

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Btw in the army they called this "taking one for the team". By evoking everyones emotions and drawing out the strongest, I got you valued clues.

Remember Oxygen revealed himself in a silly manner.

Remember KT went for blood instead of  laughing it off.

Metrex also jumped

4 mobbies in 1 blow

Oh thats three. See if you can detect the last one.

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Changing vote to Sickness, for voting me! you voted Flint too!

"Heh heh heh heh heh heh!"

Metrex

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I throw away my vote on Ramza.  1st day bandwagons suck tongue

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voting kt

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

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