Topic: Why Obama is our last hope...

As someone who firmly believe there should NEVER be a woman president, I am quite disturbed at the recent trend in America.  Right now, we face the fear of that very thing happening.  As a lifelong Democrat, I maybe forced to vote for the pro-war McCain, something I would despise myself horribly for doing, if Hillary Clinton runs.

Its not that I think Hillary has bad views.  Its not that I dont think she'll be good for the economy, for universal health care, for foreign policy, or anything else.  But what happened to the traditional American housewife?  The Biblical morals are going down the drain for a secular view of "whats right." 

What America needs is two presidents: Mike Huckabee for the social issues, and John Edwards for everything else.  But with what we have right now, I continue to feel like Barack Obama is our last hope to save us from having a woman run for president from the party that is increasingly trying to alienate the Christian vote.

Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth. ~Psalms 57:5

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and what exactly is wrong with a female president?

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

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Nothing is wrong with a female president.  It's wrong when Hillary is running for it.  And joe, you should really set aside your chauvinistic views if you intend to not live as a hermit.  And I can't believe you would think Obama is our last hope.  Obama is nothing BUT hope.  McCain has a plan, Hillary has a plan, but Obama is all words and you've fallen right into it all.  This fascination with hope is the equivalent of the German people and Hitler and like the German people, if Obama gets into office, the people will pay...and they will pay considerably.

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"The Biblical morals are going down the drain for a secular view of "whats right." "

Yeah cause it's a real shame we don't pummel people to death with rocks for being gay or tie them up and light them on fire for not being christian.  Face it Biblical morals were, are, and always will be incredibly messed up.  To illustrate just how messed up: you take your moral example from a being that's comitted genocide, twice, and has stated they're going to do it again.

"But what happened to the traditional American housewife?"

It ceased to be feasable for a single income to support a family.  That and women got the crazy idea that going out into the work place would be better than sitting at home doing next to nothing (seriously why would they give that up).

There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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i would prefer a women president cuz the whole world is already f***ed so lets get a women to either fix it or make it worse.

to tell you the truth, america is so messed up, it doesn't matter who is president anymore, no one can fix this crap.

I dont smoke cigarettes because i like them.  I smoke because it hides the smell of marijuana thats seeping into the hallway atm.

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joe you disgust me

Sex without the e is still SX!

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crazy joe hates women... sad

when you think about it, its not that suprising, is it? ^^

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OMG!! another redneck bible-hugging moonshine-drinkin' hillbilly in the politics forum.

"Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered
automatic weapons."-General Douglas MacArthur
"Cluster bombing from B-52s are very, very, accurate. The bombs are guaranteed
to always hit the ground."-USAF Ammo Troop

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paul, just that this one is a socialist democrat tongue

Yes, you're special. Just like everyone else.

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Yeah ignore Joe. Even those who I despise on the politics forum have a much more intellectual and open mind than him.

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Can we ban joe from the politics forum? Is that possible?

Praise Kek

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People who think like the last 9 posters are the ones who are bringing down the Democratic party, and the very reason why we cant get the White House back.

Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth. ~Psalms 57:5

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Joe,

Did you know that the Democratic party supports abortion rights? Did you know they support a more secular policy with respect to public life and education?

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> joe4444 wrote:

> As someone who firmly believe there should NEVER be a woman president, I am quite disturbed at the recent trend in America.  Right now, we face the fear of that very thing happening.  As a lifelong Democrat, I maybe forced to vote for the pro-war McCain, something I would despise myself horribly for doing, if Hillary Clinton runs.

Its not that I think Hillary has bad views.  Its not that I dont think she'll be good for the economy, for universal health care, for foreign policy, or anything else.  But what happened to the traditional American housewife?  The Biblical morals are going down the drain for a secular view of "whats right." 

What America needs is two presidents: Mike Huckabee for the social issues, and John Edwards for everything else.  But with what we have right now, I continue to feel like Barack Obama is our last hope to save us from having a woman run for president from the party that is increasingly trying to alienate the Christian vote.



I am now quite convinced that the personality we associate with the nickname Joe4444 is a put on, a long standing joke, a way for an attention seeking child or a sad individual with very little control over their own life to get people to dance to their tune for their own amusement.

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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I find it funny that the whole of politics, left and right, have pounced on Joe for his remarks.  There is one good thing about Joe - he gives everyone else something to agree against.

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It is rather humorously ironic that people say I am on this forum just for attention.  Am I really posting just for attention?

Uhh... yea, we all are.  That is why we do not go make some random forum for ourselves and post crap where there is no one to comment back or say anything.  We post here for the attention of others.  DURRRRRRR.....

But really, why are people so angered?  There are millions of Americans who will not vote for Hillary because of only one reason: she's a woman.  Some are more narrow-minded than myself.  Obviously many here have no idea about the culture of some of those people, and when one finally strikes your left-wing, anti-Christian presence, everyone decides to gang up on him and trash his views because they dont fit your "hippie, weed-smokin', 'lets legalize marijuana man....'" lifestyles. 

Sounds stereotypical, doesnt it?  Just reread your own posts, and perhaps a dose of reality will sink in.  If every voter out there was like some of you people, I'd say its a pretty darned close-minded country we live in.

Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth. ~Psalms 57:5

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Lol, Joe.  You're the one that's close-minded.  If you actually knew the background of these responders, there's plenty right wingers.  The world does not revolve around the Bible anymore.  This may be news to you, but the world revolves around the sun.

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JOe: the difference is you are the one being stereotypical whilst none of the respondants are... so go slap yourself a ho or what ever you white idiots do in your spare time...

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
"Nothing is worse than a fully prepared fool"

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If this would be the 1950's you'ld say that the abolishment of slavery has degraded the moral structure of the USA.(if ur not saying that now)

"Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered
automatic weapons."-General Douglas MacArthur
"Cluster bombing from B-52s are very, very, accurate. The bombs are guaranteed
to always hit the ground."-USAF Ammo Troop

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> joe4444 wrote:

> It is rather humorously ironic that people say I am on this forum just for attention.  Am I really posting just for attention?

It is the ONLY time you post. Oh, and I am not people I am a person. Singular.

>Uhh... yea, we all are.  That is why we do not go make some random forum for ourselves and post crap where there is no one to comment back or say anything.  We post here for the attention of others.  DURRRRRRR.....

No we post here in order to discuss the world in which we live. By your logic the White House, Congress, Parliament, Duma, and the Vatican are all filled with attention seeksers.

>But really, why are people so angered?

Because your sole reason for not liking Hillary Clinton is that her genitals are on the inside.

>There are millions of Americans who will not vote for Hillary because of only one reason: she's a woman.

No, they aren't going to vote for her because she's a two faced hypocritical clinical psycopath.

>Some are more narrow-minded than myself.

Can I have this in writing? Signed and dated? In blood?

>Obviously many here have no idea about the culture of some of those people, and when one finally strikes your left-wing, anti-Christian presence, everyone decides to gang up on him and trash his views because they dont fit your "hippie, weed-smokin', 'lets legalize marijuana man....'" lifestyles.

How many Americans do we have on this forum? How many Right wingers? How many Bible Bashers? And how many of those are rushing to your defence? If you are right they should be defending you, right? But they're not, why is that? Maybe it has nothing to do with our political stance or religious belief?

>Sounds stereotypical, doesnt it?

Yes it does, glad you realise.

>Just reread your own posts, and perhaps a dose of reality will sink in.  If every voter out there was like some of you people, I'd say its a pretty darned close-minded country we live in.

Because only <Closed Minded> people vote for someone based on their political views and plan of action regardless of their sex?

"So, it's defeat for you, is it? Someday I must meet a similar fate..."

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JOE honey... I never say this to anyone but....GTFO!!!

"Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered
automatic weapons."-General Douglas MacArthur
"Cluster bombing from B-52s are very, very, accurate. The bombs are guaranteed
to always hit the ground."-USAF Ammo Troop

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yeah ^^

i wonder if the christians ever payed attention to there history and then thought about the

'thou shall not kill' part

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<@iluvatar> still
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> "How many Americans do we have on this forum? How many Right wingers?"

By my count, virtually none. 


> "And how many of those are rushing to your defence?"

Well, since the above question kind of affects the answer to this one, I would suggest its likely that many of my fellow Christians decided its not worth talking to such close-minded, hate-filled people.  They probably decided to let you anti-Christian hippies have your little sect here while we continue to control the nation and the Constitution.

And btw, you misspelled defense, smart boy.  And the even more funny thing about that is that the new forums have an automatic spell-checker.


Oh and btw I'm not sure what the angry posters are trying to prove here, but I still will not vote for Hillary, based solely on her gender.  And those who have commented here have demonstrated a complete lack of competitive logic, therefore allowing yourselves to do nothing but waste your time coming here.  But if thats suits you, then do what you do.

Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth. ~Psalms 57:5

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Okay, I don't think some of the less-constructive, personal abuse-type stuff circulating here towards joe really is necessary. He does have a point in not voting for Hillary: I think many of us would agree that voting for Hillary isn't such a grand idea. If I were American, I personally would not vote for her on the ground that she may well turn out to be a very bad precedent for future female candidates.

joe, I'd like to hear your reasoning behind your opinion of female presidency (it is indeed an intriguing one, as it has caused such a stir). What female trait or quality is it that you feel would make, not Hillary, but _a_ woman inadequate for fulfilling the role of President? My response would be this: men have been having their crack at it for a few good years now, and it hasn't exactly turned out peaches, has it? smile

P.S. Defence _is_ English, British.

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