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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

Well Pie, regarding the Genesis point: I had and outspoken feeling that I communicated to several other people that we were being set up by the mobs, giving us the option to choose between 2 townies. Now I know I am town, and Genesis' comment on me and the 3 other people who made it a wagon forced me to defend myself, in which I succeeded by convincing several people of my cause. This defence, sadly, caused Genipoo his life: by the time that I realised the set up, there weren't enough people left online anymore to swing the vote significantly in a way that would protect both Gen and I.

Regarding Ramza: I think I wasn't the only one who suspected him. Ramza was very quiet and weird, although he's always quiet and acts quite weirdly each and every game, making him a hard read. He wasn't high on my suspect list, but he was on it.

You, UD and You_Fool were primarily on my list due to your actions in the formation of the bandwagon on me during the lynch that killed Genesis. UD for now has been cleared from my suspect list because of his claim to be the town secret role, which sort of checks out, and You_Fool has partly been cleared as well after communicating a bit with him. You on the other hand, Pie, still are on it. You have not done anything to prove that you are not mob.

The reason I shared that list was because I suspected that mob wanted me dead, judging by the whole start-2-bandwagons-on-2-different-townies strategy they employed and my succes in defending myself: perhaps they thought I had something special to offer to the other townies that made it easier for me to convince them?


Currently my suspect list would look something like this:
- I_Like_Pie
- xara
- Star99
- ???

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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By the way those lists are in no particular order.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

your all mob x(

Watch out Banana, its pedo bear !!!!!! =O

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

our all mob?

NEE NAW NEE NAW

Primo

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All your mob are belong to insane?

"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but i am Jesus"
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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

RD I am understanding your point now, and thank you for responding.  I think this is the kind of communication that will help us not kill eachother while mobbies watch and probably laugh.

As for Ramza, your reason for suspecting him is similar to my reason for suspecting you.  Not that you are "weird" but rather at the time you were suggested as a suspect, I asked "why" and a few people pointed out how quiet you had been (at the time).  I also had nothing else to go on at that point so my choice to vote for you was really a choice to vote for anybody who raised any flags.  Unfortunately in the early phases this kind of thing seems necessary if nothing else worth talking about is happening.

As for my defense, it wasn't myself, UD, and You_Fool that started any bandwagon.  The order of votes was Genesis, UD, You_Fool, and then myself.  By the time it was time for me to pick, I wasn't jumping on any bandwagon: I was asking people in chat to explain why they suspected you.  The chatlogs will show this if anybody has them.

I think that is sufficient to explain my actions, but if you have any more questions please ask them.  I think this is productive, and I do believe you more now than I did before.  Hopefully this is mutual and we can move on to a smarter next move.

Speaking of such, Insane I am still waiting to hear your defense.  The way I feel right now, I think UD and RD are looking more innocent and you are looking more suspect.  Please help us understand why you are innocent because if we go to lynch you next and you are townie, we're gonna be screwed.

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

> I like pie wrote:

> Not that you are "weird" but rather at the time you were suggested as a suspect, I asked "why" and a few people pointed out how quiet you had been (at the time).  I also had nothing else to go on at that point so my choice to vote for you was really a choice to vote for anybody who raised any flags.  Unfortunately in the early phases this kind of thing seems necessary if nothing else worth talking about is happening.


As I pointed out earlier, I'm usually a lot more active when I am mob tongue.

However this accusation thing has made things a lot more interesting and pumped up my activity quite a bit!

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

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Uncle Jessie had gone out on a wild drinking spree this night. He was driving back to his farm, trying to avoid every ditch and pot hole he could, when he saw flashing lights in his mirror. He pulled over, and was surprised as Roscoe P. Coltrane was standing outside his truck. "License and registration please!" Roscoe demanded with a demented smile. Uncle Jessie just frowned. He reached under his seat to his favorite hiding spot, and pulled out is pistol. Before Roscoe could react, Uncle Jessie put all 6 rounds into his skull. Roscoe fell backwards, lifeless before he hit the ground. Uncle Jessie just shifted his truck back into gear, and made his way to his farm. "That's be the last time that damn sheriff ever bothers me!" he thought with a grin.


Bo Duke had been out chasing woman all night. He was finally making his way back to the Duke farm, when he noticed something was amiss. The barn door was left open. Rushing over to make sure none of the horses got out, he was met with a firm swing of a 2x4 across his chest. Knocking him flat on his back, and and all the air escaping his lungs, he grasped for breath. Boss Hogg himself had shown up to make sure this kill would go off without a hitch. A few more quick swings and Bo was out cold. That was the last time he saw anything, as Boss Hogg slipped the rope around his neck, and hoisted him up to hang from the rafters. This would be the sign, that he had come back and taken Hazzard county for himself, and the Dukes were finished.

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Roscoe P. Coltrane (Primo), the secret switcher mafia role, is now dead, along with Bo Duke (Insane).


****IT IS NOW DAY PHASE! PLAYERS HAVE UNTIL 15:00 GMT TO GET THEIR LYNCH VOTES IN! ****

Modestus Experitus

Arby: A very strict mod, reminds me of a fat redneck who drives a truck around all day with a beer in one hand. I hated this guy at the start, however, I played a round in PW with him where he went as an anonymous player. Our fam got smashed up and everyone pretty much left. Arby stayed around and helped out the remaining family. At the end of the round he revealed himself.... My views on him have changed since. Your a good guy.....

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

"swing of a 2x4 across his chest."

<3

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

can i lynch Arby for putting in a summary at the end?

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

damned if you do. Damned if you don't


shush kiwi smile

[13:43] <@RisingDown> never thought i'd say it, but TBO actually did something useful.
[13:43] <@arsy> dont let him see you say that
[13:43] <@RisingDown> oh shit
[13:43] * You were kicked from #room by arsy (kapow!)

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

Voting Pie.

We were going to investigate Pie last night phase, but this was going to be performed by InSaNe so the investigation never got through. I am not sure whether Pie is mob, but through my communication with Primo it seemed Primo was always trying to get us to investigate people other than Pie; every time we mentioned Pie Primo would come up with someone else to investigate.


This game of mafia the cop role was utterly useless, with 2 out of 4 mob roles being able to show up as town (Gf naturally and apparently the secret role too, as we investigated Primo first night and he came back clean). That, together with SK showing as town, meant that when we found an anti-town role, there was a 3 out of 5 chance we wouldn't even be able to tell because they'd come back as town! God...

Most likely I'll be dead next night phase.

I had my suspicions on Primo being gf due to his behavior and coming back as town, but this is just lame...

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Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

Following RD!

Pie for the lynch

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

Too bad we lost a cop, we really didn't need that, but I suspected Primo of mob. I even voted for him but was accused by Nick of throwing votes away. tongue  Really sad we lost Ramza too but dang stop acting so suspicious X(

I was gonna go for star tonight but with RD's post I will support him. Voting Pie

~~Lemming of leather and lollipops~~

Right, so what are we waiting for?  Can we get this going?  Any other feedback?

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Wow, a switcher role?  No wonder we've been getting slaughtered.

RD I think you are jumping the gun on Primo's role.  I was confused myself by this but somebody else asked in chat and Torqez clarified:

[8:50 PM] <Torqez> The switcher, swaps any 2 ppl in the game ....so any actions that are performed on them, are 'switched' to the other person....and vice versa

So given this, if I was mob then why would Primo have to "save" me if he has the power to protect his fellow mobiles from investigations?  He wouldn't need to.  I think that he can do that absolutely sucks, but I also think it proves that what you inferred from your communication with him is not accurate.

Also, I was leaning hard on Insane as a mobbie, and the mobs apparently killed him.  That makes no sense.  Why would I make myself a target?  If anything mobbies chose Insane because of my posts as a means to frame me.  And I will admit it does look bad but I think if we look at the details we can avoid playing into their scheming.

I'm betting mobbies are in a sweat because Primo has been found out, which means their ability to affect investigations is gone.  They're probably hoping that instead of re-evaluating whatever info you have so far that people instead take the bait against me.  I'm hoping that doesn't happen obviously, but I think all of us should be worried.

I understand your initial reaction but I feel like I am being set up.  I don't know how to defend myself against somebody else's actions (Primo's) but I can at least say let's be careful.  If the facts tell you that I am not townie then fine, but as far as I can tell that is not the case.

Speaking of Primo's role, this has skewed things against townies too much IMO.  I agreed last round cop was weak but this round it's even weaker, and having 2 doesn't necessarily improve the situation.  I believe it's worse than you think RD: not only can ANY anti-town role show up as townies, but this also means that townie roles can show up as mobbies!  I think this might mean that every single investigation you and Insane have done has been compromised.  Argh!!!

I don't know what to think right now, but I need to defend myself first before I can look at others.  So if anybody suspects me based on the events, or RD's post, read this carefully please.  We're falling into mobiles' games and it sucks and I'm about to be lynched as good townie based on a misinterpretation of Primo's role x(

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Current Standings
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I Like Pie [3] - RisingDown, Undeath, KT


Still to Vote [6] - I Like Pie, sickness, Star99, Wendy, xara, You Fool

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

I am voting Undeath/nick

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

Bed time for me soon.  I hope you all think carefully before lynching me, and to any who already voted: consider my post above.

As for my vote: KT I am sorry but you seemed to believe me in chat about my defense, yet signed off without changing vote.  If you did believe me I'm not sure why you would leave like that, unless you do believe I am innocent but want me to die too.

My vote: KT sad

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

i vote You_fool.

He waka eke noa

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

Voting Wendy... it is 99% certain that UD is Cooter, which is a pro-town role and she votes him for mob? Sounds mob to me...

In chat she tries to defend it by saying that UD night killed TBO and therefore isn't pro-towm... I still say mob!
Next mobbie to die has to be Xara btw, no explainations on any votes and never defends them... too supicious....


A vote for wendy is a vote to lynch a mobbie!

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Regarding UD's innocence for anybody who questions it:

The night UD killed TBO, there were 3 kills.  UD killed TBO, SK killed Poley, and Mob killed Metrex.  It's impossible for UD to be SK or Mob because of this.  Also, he survived multiple kills on a different night phase, and has claimed to have investigated Nolio.  It seems he has all powers but can only use them once (or perhaps one at a time, not sure).  The other thing is, if he has claimed special role and is lying, then why hasn't the real special role com out?

It just doesn't add up.  UD has to be innocent.

You_Fool, based on what we've said in chat I think Wendy was still getting the facts straight.  I don't believe she is Mob or SK.  Like I said in chat, I'm not going to pretend I'm not trying to save my own hide here but this also all important for all townies.  We can't afford to have our vote split.

I'm hoping we can find a better lead to vote on, and I'm not going to suggest joining me on voting for KT.  I'm still trying to find a better option.

In the meantime though, let's try to work together as best as we can.

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

ok pie I will trust u this time & go with the vote from KT as I've now read up in chat too. Kinda interesting convo there, from a cpl of hours before I woke up.

Vote changed to KT

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

Now that wendy has seen sense that UD is pro-town I am also changing my vote to KT. I know RD is cop and he seems to suspect Pie, but it seems to me that Primo may have tried to get a fellow mob investigated instead of Pie so that he could get another on the inside... I need to talk to RD about Primo's actions... with Primo's apparent powers it would make more sense to go with the investigation on a mob and switch the fellow mobbie with a townie. Hence anyone that Primo was against investigating is more probable to not be mob than be mob...

I may be being played by Pie, I don't know... though he does say that he isn't 100% on KT, jsut she was supicious in not changing votes even though she seemed to agree he was innocent...


To confirm... voting KT for now...

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Re: Mafia XXXIII - The Dukes!

If that is the case then wendy and you_fool go up in the suspect list. A role this powerful would not have gone unanounced. Basically all of our investigations are worthless.

I'm changing my vote to Wendy. School in a couple of minutes so i fear i might not make it online to change vote again.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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Or no, we investigated wendy before primo was contacted. changing vote to xara , as I fear we'll need the SK.

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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