Topic: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

A Canadian court has overturned a father's punishment for his daughter after she refused to stay off the Internet, his attorney said Wednesday.

The girl, 12, took her father to Quebec Superior Court after he refused to allow her to go on a school trip for chatting on Web sites and then posting "inappropriate" pictures of herself online using a friend's computer, AFP reported.

The punishment was for the girl's "own protection," according to the father's attorney, Kim Beaudoin, who is appealing the ruling.

"She's a child," Beaudoin told AFP. "At her age, children test their limits and it's up to their parent to set boundaries. I started an appeal of the decision today to reestablish parental
authority, and to ensure that this case doesn't set a precedent."

Otherwise, she continued, "Parents are going to be walking on egg shells from now on."

According to court documents, the girl's Internet usage was the latest in a rash of disciplinary problems. But Justice Suzanne Tessier, who was presiding over the case, found the punishment too severe.


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ok wtf! I mean hello he grounded her for her actions. Since when does a friggin court get to decide that a grounding is to much?

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

Well that's Quebec.

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And now we know what happens when you think liberalism should be applied to parenting.

Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

like justinian said

it's Quebec

i don't consider them a part of canda, they're stupid frenchies who don't wanna be a part of canada, and we don't want them tongue
don't know why they still with us..i'd rather have them long gone smile they stink up my town when they visit here X( big_smile

Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

Ok Einstein you are correct that this is an incredibly messed up situation.  However you should be aware that going from one province to another is like entering an entirely different country.  The rules are different, the culture's different, the language is different, etc.  Here's an example my country wasn't even of one mind about age of consent.  Until recently age of consent in Ontario was 14, other provinces had it 16, I think one even had 18 or 19, there is no consistency in my country.  Another example is language, in Ontario we speak English, Quebec French, Newfoundland ???, BC Chinese, etc.  So as was said it's Quebec and they've got their own rules based on their culture.

"don't know why they still with us"

We need the tax money.  Also there contribution to the GDP is necessary to keep us in the G8.

It isn't even they don't want to be a part of Canada they just don't want to have to associate with the rest of us.  Every plan for Quebec "sovereignty" those people have put forward has them maintaining all the benefits of being part of Canada; currency, health care, trade agreements, military agreements, roads, etc. without having to pay any of the taxes.

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sounds like we need to invade Quebec!

again.

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What the hell is the "Superior Court"? Is it the Quebec Supreme Court equivalent?

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"And now we know what happens when you think liberalism should be applied to parenting."

Those aren't necessarily connected...

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

She was living with her mother at the time of the trip, not her father. And her mother Ok'd it. Her father has legal custody over her, but that means very little in the sense that her mother can still let her go.

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if her mother doesnt have legal custody of her, i dont see how her opinion is relevant

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If she lives with her mum then it's she that decides I assume. So her opinion is what matters in this case. Still weird to pull your parents to coart when you are 12 for anything like this tongue

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

saying she was living with her mother isnt very discriptive. if her father let her stay over her mother's for a weekend or a week, it doesnt mean that he last all say in what she does; he still had custody and is responsible for the child.

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

Avogadro, legal custody means almost nothing...as I stated in my previous post. Just because the father has legal custody, under Quebec law, that does not give him the right to unilaterally make decisions about his daughter's future.

The fact that she was living with her mother at the time tips the scale in favour of the mother's decision over his.

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If she is spending too much time on the internet then surely grounding her is the stupidest punishment ever. I am beginning to find it amusing that threads like this tend to have comments such as "And now we know what happens when you think liberalism should be applied to parenting", personally I blame the leftist elitist socialist media.

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

he grounded her from the interenet...

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LOL if i had done this to my parents

i'd be lying in the back yard, 2 feet deep in the ground

hehe tongue

Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

I thought he stopped her going on a school trip?

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

that to, but internet and trip

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

and she posted inappropriate pictures...

pretty sure if i had a kid that did that... there would be punishment and it would be far more then missing a school trip...

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

The judge has no problem with the being grounded from the internet Einstein.

The judge's problem was annoyed because:

a) the girl was living with her mother
b) the girl's graduation celebration was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. A similar punishment for instance would be preventing someone from ever getting married because they ate a forbidden cookie.

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lol this is...wow....

I mean, I can understand how the mother probably had the greater say so in the case. Legally that is.


But honestly, if a child posts inappropriate pics on the internet and the father felt that the best way to protect her was to ground her from the computer....what's the problem? I mean, its not so unreasonable. If it were a case of him beating her then I can understand where the situation can get tricky but I can't really see where he did anything wrong. Her mother probably has inappropriate pics online as well:p

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Re: In Canada you cannot ground your child!

The court case has nothing to do with not being able to use the computer. tongue It has to do with the father wanting to prevent the daughter from going on her graduation celebration with her classmates.

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Quote:

The girl's parents are divorced, and after she had an alleged row with her stepmother, the dad barred her from going on a school trip to mark the class's graduation from elementary school, the newspaper says.

    "When he said, 'OK, it's final. You're not going,' she smacked the door, left and went to live with her mother," the father's lawyer, Kim Beaudoin, told CBC News.

    Last Wednesday, the dad received a motion petitioning the court to overturn the punishment.

    Two days later, the justice ruled that the punishment was too severe since the girl had already been sufficiently disciplined, said Beaudoin.

    Beaudoin said the justice also said there was no reason for the punishment to stand, since the girl was now living with her mother, even though the father has custody.

As with many notorious legal cases, I'm not sure this one is nearly as outrageous as it sounds. That the girl went to live with her mother is the key element - chances are, it is the mother, not the child, who commenced the application.

The overriding consideration in custody and access disputes is "the best interest of the child," and judges have quite a bit of discretion to determine what falls under that heading. It's actually quite common for a parent to seek an order allowing a child to accompany him or her on vacation, when the other parent is unwilling to allow it, and this Quebec case doesn't seem too far removed.

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can we end the thread?

them frenchies aint canadians big_smile --most of them atleast

change the name to In frenchi land you cannot ground your child atleast sad

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racist

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