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I think there are some presumptions going on then.  So far I have read that we should "enforce gun control", not that we need a full ban.  The first person to actually say "ban" here was PICKLE ARMY and he was talking specifically about semi-automatics and just giving an example of effectiveness.

I don't see anybody proposing that the US enacts a full ban.  But even still, I get that there are things to "kill and die" for but who are you talking about killing?  "kill everyone who wants guns banned" is ridiculous, and the complete opposite of the ideals you are trying to defend.  You value freedom of speech right?  How about freedom to have a different opinion?  Should we also kill everyone who thinks we should ban people from shouting FIRE in a movie theater?

It's hypocritical.  "Free speech" as long as we all say as you do, otherwise we should die.  To protect our nation from those who want to take away our freedoms.  What a joke.

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semi automatics banned would be a full gun ban.

And if they ban guns then they should die is what I said.

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Basn guns... make FLint walk the walk and laugh as the one man civil war falters and dies....

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There is no pattern, there is no increase,

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*looks at the criminologist's last name*

It's from Fox, so it's inherently biased.

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Einstein, what you said was: "let there be a civil war of civil wars until every last person preaching to take guns is dead".  If you'd like to retract that, then that's fair but let's not pretend you said something different, even if subtly so.  What you said is ironic at best and hypocritical at worst.  It's ridiculous either way.

And regarding this: "semi automatics banned would be a full gun ban"

I have to believe you meant something else, because that would imply that all guns are semi-automatic.  That's as true as saying all animals are birds.

Anyway, even if PICKLE ARMY did reference a full ban (which he didn't) he still never explicitly stated that the US needs to enact such a ban.  He was simply making a statement about the effectiveness of a partial ban in another country.  I made a similar statement about Japan.  Any inference about a full ban is one you are making on your own.  It's a straw man argument, and we're wasting our time with it.

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not many hand guns are derringers. They, including revolvers, are pretty much semi-automatic.

Not many rifles are bolt action either. Nor are there many lever action

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So "some" guns "pretty much" semi-automatic?

Sorry, that does not hold weight as a definition of which guns we are talking about.  A full ban means all guns.  If any gun can be classified differently than a semi-automatic, then nobody here except for you was ever talking about a full ban.

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ban all metal utensils because those can kill people also. plastic sporks ftw!

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> You_Fool wrote:

> Basn guns... make FLint walk the walk and laugh as the one man civil war falters and dies....<<


Google "Molon labe" and see how many Flints there are

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I agree, ban all semiautomatics.  That will speed implementation of electric guns that have no magazine, no breech, and no locks.

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I think Killas is hitting this right on.  It's a shame that this person was mentally ill, and it's of not necessarily anybody's fault that he was, but the fact of the matter is that him having easy access to firearms is something that could and should have been avoided.

Normally, I believe in parents taking care of their own children without government "hand holding" but in a scenario like this, lives of others are put at risk.  Nobody would want to be told that "you have a mentally unstable child with a history of violence, so you can't have guns in your house" but refusing to acknowledge that the situation is high risk is irresponsible and inconsiderate of your fellow citizens.

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i oppose concealed carry

it just means you will suprise some crook who probably wouldn't have done anything if he knew you had a gun
but you concealed it
so he tried something
then you, a lawabiding citizen, can pull your piece and shoot him lawfully
giggling like that Scorpio Killer in Dirty Harry
"hahahah you didn't KNOW! You didn't KNOW I had THIS heheheheeheee"

that is not like a boss

I want Open Carry

a .45 Colt revolver in a hip holster
a 12 gauge riot gun in a fringed leather back holster
a .308 rifle on a sling
a bowie knife
throwing knives strapped to each arm
a cruciform dagger on a neck lanyard
a .32 police pistol in an ankle holster
a waist sash with smoke grenades, a Bible and a bottle of bourbon
and a guide monkey with a over-under .357 magnum derringer

now that is deterrence

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maybe stop bullying nerds an loners in school would be a good start.

The inmates are running the asylum

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Last time I tried to advocate that, my lunch money got taken.  sad

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The Yell, I can't tell if you're joking or not.

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hmmm...if I had the cash lying around I'd do it, so, I'm serious.  Especially if I could actually train the monkey to unload on whatever I shoot at.


* sure...but...have they really TRIED training a monkey to do that?

** I'm gonna say yes, since CIA actually put LSD in nerd's booze to see if they got smarter, then, I'm sure they tried monkey gunslingers

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In WWII there were a variety of animal weapons tested out

Bats with a fuel fire bomb

Dogs with bombs mounted on them

Crap.. I am forgetting a lot...

Anyways I do recall, I think British, an effort to make soldier monkies.

However since no nation actually deployed special animal weapons the point is moot.

And guard/attack dogs don't count as special animal weapons

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The Yell I can't take you seriously.  You're either trolling me or doing a great bit of satire.  If you are actually serious, I think you perhaps have watched Rambo a few times too many.

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Every night he goes to bed he prays for the start of the civil war. He is beyond caring.

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96 (edited by V. Kemp 16-Dec-2012 20:02:27)

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I love how a lot of people are talking about guns as if they're responsible for tragedies like this.

Newsflash: The technology of semi-automatic weapons has been around for a century. The technology of 6-shooters has been around another half-century before that.

People have had the technology (guns) to commit horrible crimes like this for a very long time. Yet there are absolutely no instances of anything remotely like this any time before very modern history.

This behavior did not develop along with the technology. It came much, much later. To blame technology and not examine what else is going on is absolutely ridiculous.

Do you know where shootings like this don't happen? Everywhere people have guns.

Of course I agree with everything that's been said about personal responsibility. There's just no substitute for it, and many people today sadly lack it.

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Actually I'm not joking.  I would rather have people wear guns on their belts so you all know they're armed than have some crook draw first and get suprised.

OK i was kind of joking with the monkey.  I don't have the time for a pet. It would be a cool accessory but clearly beyond my means.

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Alright, police sub stations in schools... Pros cons?  I wouldn't mind a police sub station at my daughters school... and would help relations between the police and young people... also think it would be better than giving teachers guns.

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