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I don't think so. It was incoherent rambling and... I'm hesitant to say.

I'm pretty sure that pointing out how incoherent someone is repeatedly becomes mockery at some point. And that might be against the rules!

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"I don't think so. It was incoherent rambling and..."
Let me guess...It's an insult to someone's intelligence?

lol

Normally I ignore pointless insults, but now I'm starting to become curious. Why are you so frustrated about the intelligence thing? Maybe I can learn something about frustrated kids, if not about OIL.

Don't reply with the part "criticism" of wikipedia on this one, just post a link.

103 (edited by Little Paul 05-Dec-2012 12:45:46)

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Back on topic,

Right now about 0,5% to 1,5% average of every barrel is used in a consumers vehicle as fuel to move a person from point a to b. This could be up to 6% for low performance or very costly cars but those are often not interesting for consumers. Estimates vary but the majority of specialists claim this average percentage might raise instead of lower, even if oil production becomes more costly in the future.

Why? Many reasons.

I give you one:
A multitude of new inventions who become commercial soon or are already used in new cars.
*GFP
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite-reinforced_plastic
In short, it has 30% less weight then alu and 50% over steel. That is huge.
*New technology that allows you motor to remain turning with a lower RPM.
*New computer technology will make your car drive more efficient. This goes so wide you can start multiple threads over this subject alone.
could go on here.

Those numbers seem insignificant but even a raise of 0,1% on average sometimes means 20% more distance with the same fuel. This will make oil affordable for much longer for use in cars.

104 (edited by The Yell 05-Dec-2012 18:12:11)

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lighter cars + American drivers = SUVs doing spiral ramp jumps

not much fuel economy

where it could be HUGE: rail transport efficiency.

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Semi trucks would benefit to freak, and semi trucks are not subsidized like certain rail projects X(

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yes let me make a correction to my post

>lighter cars + American drivers = tractor-trailers doing spiral ramp jumps with Einstein singing "Convoy" as he spins in midair<

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motorcycles, trucks, trains, even boats would become much more efficient.

I backup your claim btw with a verified link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcaeYmT4wsg

Its not fox news or BBC so its undisputed!

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lol. If my truck weighs 50% less... I still have a net weight, tractor and trailer, of 19 tons.

Sadly I do not think that will be enough for 70 mph max speed to launch me into flight sad

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> Little Paul wrote:

> motorcycles, trucks, trains, even boats would become much more efficient.

I backup your claim btw with a verified link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcaeYmT4wsg

Its not fox news or BBC so its undisputed!<<


good, now we can save on bridges and stuff by leaving 10 ft gaps

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110 (edited by V. Kemp 06-Dec-2012 06:41:58)

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Little Paul,

None of your crying makes EROEI relevant beyond its impact on oil industry ROI.

It's funny how you've repeatedly mentioned wikipedia; you're obviously familiar with its content on the topic. I am not.

Your bit on the percentage of oil used for consumer transportation is misleading. Every ounce of crude that can be used for fuel oil is; it's just that not all of the chemical compounds in oil can be used/converted for that product. You posted as if 100% of crude could be used for consumer transportation, but that's not the case. A more useful figure would be that 100% of the components of crude which can be used for fuel oil are, and a lot of that is used for transportation, and a good chunk of that is used for personal transportation.

Also I'd love a source of your "0,5% to 1,5%" claim.

"A trend that emerged since the 1950s concerns the growing share of transportation in the world's total oil consumption; transportation accounts for approximately 25% of world energy demand and for about 61.5% of all the oil used each year."
http://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch8en/conc8en/ch8c2en.html

"about one fourth of those cars are found on U.S. roads, where cars and light trucks account for 40 percent of the nation

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"good, now we can save on bridges and stuff by leaving 10 ft gaps"
You could save some space for pedestrian too. What they save on fuel they can eat!

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"Sadly I do not think that will be enough for 70 mph max speed to launch me into flight"

can't you just lift off like in this vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNzRBIeYtQ

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after 36 hours driving he thinks he is flying like that

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Off the record, those flying trucks are awesome! Wish they had some use so I could make up an excuse to buy one.

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How do you type something on a forum as "off the record?"

Make Eyes Great Again!

The Great Eye is watching you... when there's nothing good on TV...

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Or you could move by tornado. Its not an everyday means of transport, but its free.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AgKbW-WCng

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@ILT:
I cannot blame my spelling checker now can I? tongue

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@ Zarf: Europeans let you alter the record to "correct" it

@ Little Paul - if you put a string on the truck it can fly to the roof and back, and then you attach a rope to one end and pull the other end of the string and it will pull a rope up where you couldn't reach and back.  That should be good enough reason!

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Yeah a video.

Won't be able to watch that for a month or so

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Go to a library and shove a homeless guy away from his porn

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that'd be the topic subject if you're relly interested in the future

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Desalinization, filtration, aquaducts, and shipping

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Falls under filtration.

Easier to filter than most stuff

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Einstein has a working stillsuit he made out of a beer helmet and trash bags

he wears it after 48 hour shifts

then he attaches maker hooks to the steering wheel and rides the Maker from on top of the cab

he is a naib of the desert

but like all Fremen he has to avoid towns and their garrisons

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