"Clearly, too many American parents cannot control their children's feeding patterns. So someone else must take control."

Too many American parents are horrible parents, and this is contributed to by programs which encourage them to be lazy and comfort them with the knowledge that "someone else" will "take control."

Your solution worsens the problem. Government as mommy for all just produces more unfit parents.

"Do you have any idea how much obese people cost society in their medical care?"

Without socialized medicine and limits on the [government-welfare-funded] care provided to poor fatasses who obviously don't care about their own health anyway, not more than I'm willing to donate.

"They are the medical industry's 2nd favorite moneypig, right after smokers, arguably their favorite."

Send them the bill. It'll moderate the industry if they can only rob the fatasses with lung cancer of what they can afford.

HILARIOUS! a bunch of guys without kids talking about what kids should and should not eat. *SIGHS*

As many of you know im a parent. My kid doesnt eat school lunches for a reason. Its all garbage. I make her bag lunches and send her to school with what i WANT her to eat. I refuse to let her eat that crap cuz its not good for you. Its frozen processed shit loaded with preservatives.

I cant believe some of you are actually attacking Michelle Obama for wanting kids to eat healthier at school. WTF man?!? Yes i know the arguement about the government controlling things and blah blah blah. The arguement doesnt hold weight (no pun intended). Whats next? Should we lift the ban on asbestos? Perhaps we should start using lead based paint again?

Einstien wrote>
"Additionally the more 'fresh' the food must be the higher the cost "

NO! WRONG! I work in a restaurant currently and ive managed a few. Fresh food is cheaper than frozen processed food. Ive done the ordering, ive compared the prices and ive seen the profit magins myself. Just watch 'Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares' or any other program similar to it. He helps failing restaurants and 9/10 their biggest financial mistake is ordering frozen processed food cuz its so damn expensive.

If parents are too dumb to feed their kids good food, at least they could get a good healthy meal at school. Dont be attacking the lady cuz she wants to make kids healthy.

Stupid republicans. *rolls eyes*

This thread (and others like it) are just an example of how the right blows things out of proportion. When reduced to it's simplest terms the First Lady just wants to help our children be healthier. Republicans are making this into needless drama. Like they always do. They like to create a crisis from nothing. Typical Republican strategy....use fear to scare voters into thinking their way.

> The Yell wrote:

> Clearly we must repudiate personal liberty at all levels if the vision of the communal caring society is to succeed!!!

We owe Mao a BIG apology

Atleast the Chinese are fashionably skinny!

"This thread (and others like it) are just an example of how the right blows things out of proportion. When reduced to it's simplest terms the First Lady just wants to help our children be healthier. Republicans are making this into needless drama. Like they always do. They like to create a crisis from nothing. Typical Republican strategy....use fear to scare voters into thinking their way."

You agreed in chat that banning homemade lunches was stupid.   And that's what's being done.

Also they're now calling obesity a "national security" issue, on the grounds that fat people can't serve if drafted (?!)

By calling it that they enable the President to loan money to related programs if this "national security" problem can't get private financing.

Timmyville,

"Sorry, but you charge your schools to educate your children. Your children are PROFOUNDLY ignorant when it comes to nutrition. They have to be TAUGHT how to eat properly. Only a right wing tea party member would look at this initiative and see a negative in it."

Only a baby would look at this and see a need. You can't educate the fat out of kids with bad parents. They eat most of their food outside of school, geniuses. This accomplishes nothing but to comfort babies who look to government for every possible ill they see in the world. It's a waste of money that all kids are ultimately going to have to pay for. Only a baby would look at this and not realize that nothing is free and this isn't worth anything, let alone its costs.

AdriusAvangion,

"As many of you know im a parent. My kid doesnt eat school lunches for a reason. Its all garbage. I make her bag lunches and send her to school with what i WANT her to eat. I refuse to let her eat that crap cuz its not good for you. Its frozen processed shit loaded with preservatives.

I cant believe some of you are actually attacking Michelle Obama for wanting kids to eat healthier at school. WTF man?!? Yes i know the arguement about the government controlling things and blah blah blah. The arguement doesnt hold weight (no pun intended). Whats next? Should we lift the ban on asbestos? Perhaps we should start using lead based paint again?"

Why not vote for a better school board? Why does the federal government need to get involved to fix something you can fix yourself in your own community?

"This thread (and others like it) are just an example of how the right blows things out of proportion. When reduced to it's simplest terms the First Lady just wants to help our children be healthier. Republicans are making this into needless drama. Like they always do. They like to create a crisis from nothing. Typical Republican strategy....use fear to scare voters into thinking their way."

And I want a space colony on mars, but that doesn't make it a good idea to waste taxpayer dollars in a vain attempt to build one. What's blown out of proportion is the notion that debt doesn't matter and nobody will ever have to pay for it, so just ignore it. It's ignorant and irresponsible. I don't have to call this wasteful and ineffective program a crisis to call it an unproductive waste of money.

> Mister Spock wrote:

>

Only a baby would look at this and see a need. You can't educate the fat out of kids with bad parents. They eat most of their food outside of school, geniuses. This accomplishes nothing but to comfort babies who look to government for every possible ill they see in the world. It's a waste of money that all kids are ultimately going to have to pay for. Only a baby would look at this and not realize that nothing is free and this isn't worth anything, let alone its costs.

-By extension I could say the same thing about exercising (PE), Mathematics, Science, Arts or whatever. "What's the point of teaching it to them if they have ignorant parents who won't use them at home." Extremely flawed and ignorant logic, and is has nothing to do with "babies".

>

And I want a space colony on mars, but that doesn't make it a good idea to waste taxpayer dollars in a vain attempt to build one. What's blown out of proportion is the notion that debt doesn't matter and nobody will ever have to pay for it, so just ignore it. It's ignorant and irresponsible. I don't have to call this wasteful and ineffective program a crisis to call it an unproductive waste of money.

-I think educating children about nutrition is smarter financially and smarter in general than establishing a space colony on Mars. Just saying.

-I think educating children about nutrition is smarter financially and smarter in general than establishing a space colony on Mars. Just saying.<<

Not if it was a Mars colony of Kardashians

BOYTOY: WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
KK: DONT yell at me
BOYTOY: You killed our livestock! You killed them! Look they're DEAD we have no meat protein

KK: Eric TOTALLY lost it with me.  And that is NOT cool.

KK: I just wanted to give them some sun
BOYTOY : You NUKED THEM!! Their brains are poached! Didn't you remember --- NO. Didn't you remember the tapes? Didn't you watch the tapes?
KK: You. Are just-- ugh.

KK: I can't - disrespect is like gas, you know? I can't breathe it. It makes me sick.

KK: It's like I'm floating out in orbit and I can't breathe or anything.
MA: I know I know
KK: It's like I'm not able to handle this in my life right now
MA: What you're doing is so right for you? You know?
KK: I'm not strong like you
MA: When I was with your dad I was staying in hotels all over. It's hard but it's so right for you both

you know what 20 seconds of that is worth to advertisers?  You could sell name rights like the PepsiCo Food Pyramid, wouldn't begun to taste the smell of the touch of that kind of ad buy

Timmyville,

That it "has to do with EDUCATION" purely because it's in schools doesn't make it an educational program in which children actually learn about nutrition. How is it we keep glossing over this topic as if it does? Wishful thinking does not make it so.

Maybe the fact that it's not happening locally in your area is something you should fix, if you actually care. If you don't, I fail to see any legitimate reason for pushing for it federally.

What evidence do you have that forcing schools to offer only federally mandated foods is improving children's health or teaching them good eating habits? I'm pretty sure offering foods children don't want to eat, resulting in them bringing whatever they want to eat from home, isn't improving any children's health or teaching them good eating habits. Is there any evidence of success here, or is it again only wishful thinking?

Again, you completely ignore that mandating what foods are offered does not miraculously educate children about good eating habits. And, again, you completely ignore that the people you're entrusting to offer this education regularly offer us (and our children) carcinogens and other harmful chemicals. There's more to nutrition than low sodium and low calorie diets, yet that's all that your desired educators preach.

You're arguing that tax money should be spent forcing schools to only offer certain foods when the decisions regarding which foods are offered aren't even made on the nutritional value of those foods. Michelle Obama doesn't know any more about nutrition than Monsanto, and neither gives a damn about children.

Good thing we have a ReichskafteriAmt to decide those things for us all

ReichKucheAmt! Donnerwetter!

It is "Kriegsern