Topic: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

In order to raise a child to adulthood one must make sacrifices, we all know that. For example; one must leave the bachelor lifestyle behind, leave the Bar for the weekends only and be a firm, sober, presence in the child's life, otherwise you could accidentally be responsible for the child turning into an alcoholic.

Self sacrifice, the cornerstone of any forward thinking society.

But what of self interest, is self interest also necessary? It it right to "guide" your children towards the future you want for them, to buy little Annie pencils and paints so she can be the artist you want her to be when all she wants to do is play with the dollies and kitchen set granny bought her for Christmas.

Of course sometimes the answer is clear, a paedophile guiding the future of his or her child, "grooming" them to accept that it is perfectly normal for adults to have sex with children, is qute clearly wrong, robbing the child of a choice it should not have to make until maturity, if ever.
A quick google with lead you to the depressing truth as to the future of these victims; unfortunately most abused boys and girls become abusers themselves, the self interest of their parents/step parents/uncle lumpy lap irreversibly altering their minds forever.

So is self interest ever acceptable in parenting?
Is there a line, between the two, between self interest and self sacrifice, or does the line lie in one of the two?
Is some forms of self interest acceptable, to raise your child to worship the great whirling ball of death on the opposite side of the line to raising your child to be a rapist, paedophile, or merely a slut?
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No fighting, no name calling, no off topic ranting. If you cannot be courteous and respectful I will have the thread closed.
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The Fokker has spoken, discuss!

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

It is quite normal for parents to try to interest their kid(s) in what they themselves are interested in.
I cannot see anything wrong with this.

This inclues, watching sports, watching tv (that the parents watch), meeting people that the parents like (when they come over)... Anything that the parents can do when the kid(s) are around really.

But ofc the examples you give are ... very far from this, and those aren't accepteble obviously.

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

"It is quite normal for parents to try to interest their kid(s) in what they themselves are interested in."

Perhaps I should be asking "What is the difference between this ^ and brainwashing?"

Meh... too late now smile

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

This is called "raising your kids". And if nobody did that then we weould live in caves still smile

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

You should guide your child, stimulate him or her with books, educational games, get him/her interested in playing an instrument(or atleast give the coice) and such until they reach 12 or something. After that the child should mostly chose his own path with his/her parents bumbing her back on the path everyonce in a while so he/she doesnt for instance hang out with the wrong croud.

"Perhaps I should be asking "What is the difference between this ^ and brainwashing?""

None really. like dragon said, thats parenting.

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

So raising my child to be a paedo/terrorist/racist is parenting?

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

"So raising my child to be a paedo/terrorist/racist is parenting?"
Not called parenting...

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

> ☭ Fokker wrote:

> So raising my child to be a paedo/terrorist/racist is parenting?


You could if you want, but you'd be a bad parent wink


Everyone reacts to their environments differently and there's no predicting how someone will be 5, 10 years from now.  I once saw the most altruistic girl in my school leave for a couple years and come back as a true badass with much less respect towards people.  Good parenting is guiding a kid with the knowledge of what right and wrong is, what is acceptable and whats not.  The choice is ultimately the kid's as to what they do with this knowledge.

Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

You raise your children to be good people.   Easier said than done.

If teaching your child strapping a bomb to their body, and blowing your self up, murdering people is being "Good"......

Seems like some people think its ok to raise your children to hide amoung the people, and murder as many as you can.

Come .......joust w/the master.
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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

Kids are not at fault there, they are thought it is good to die for what you stand for. There isent much you can do then try and change the minds of either the children so they dont pass it allong or that of their parents, wich is probably harder.

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Re: Parenting: The Fine Line Between Self Sacrifice and Self Interest

> Black_Wing wrote:

> You raise your children to be good people.   Easier said than done.
If teaching your child strapping a bomb to their body, and blowing your self up, murdering people is being "Good"......
Seems like some people think its ok to raise your children to hide amoung the people, and murder as many as you can.<

So where is the line for you?
Sorry to pick on you, but I bet you saw it coming smile

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