sorry i know my math!

Colorado is a good attacker, I have played quite a few rounds with him. Does he like having a big fleet? yes he does but in cancellation wars, the goal is normally to have the biggest fleet and make the best use of it you can. I remember atleast a few occasions where Colo saved our fams butt even though he was the underdog

Few things.

41 tried to BOR raid us after breaking agreements with one of our vice leaders.  Personally I'd prefer to war them at that time, but as a leader its not wise to sacrifice your family in expo phase due to your ego (take lessons 41).

41 approached several families throughout the round (40) asking them to attack us or asking for market aid (46,38) at several points during the round.

41 had no respect for prior families that went to war (47 and 40 cancellation war they told them it was their target they planned to they could screw off regardless of their cancellations)

Your family has had 2 days since the 38 war ended (I talked to them and know the truth) plus a 3 day nap cancellation period. 5 days prep time for a war.  What more do you want, 10 days? Vulturing has been considered attacking during a war, or a few days after it not usually is it considered that 5 days after a NAP is already in place.

Your family deserves zero respect from us and will get none.  Lots of early fighting put you with lots of NAP's, poor diplomacy situations and huge ego's which was your main weakness.  Your egos are so huge rather than fighting like a man you  opt to give your planets to 38.  Real leaders never give up on their fam's and certainly don't self destruct their own families so that they don't bruise egos.

Oh, by the way, take a look at our family picture.

> Impire wrote:

> Few things.

41 tried to BOR raid us after breaking agreements with one of our vice leaders.  Personally I'd prefer to war them at that time, but as a leader its not wise to sacrifice your family in expo phase due to your ego (take lessons 41).   

- There was no such agreement, your leader refused to sign anything

41 approached several families throughout the round (40) asking them to attack us or asking for market aid (46,38) at several points during the round. 

  - This is outright lies, ive allready asked Talic to prove this and he could not supply anything more than a joking message i sent him taken out of context.

41 had no respect for prior families that went to war (47 and 40 cancellation war they told them it was their target they planned to they could screw off regardless of their cancellations) - 47 and 40 both agreed that this was a weird situation in where 40 tried to ninja 47s war with 41. In the end it turned out as intended, 41 vs 47 is a nice and even war.

Your family has had 2 days since the 38 war ended (I talked to them and know the truth) plus a 3 day nap cancellation period. 5 days prep time for a war.  What more do you want, 10 days? Vulturing has been considered attacking during a war, or a few days after it not usually is it considered that 5 days after a NAP is already in place.

- You have saved for maybe 14 days straight, would be nice to give us atleast 5 yes. As for the difinition of a vulture:

noun
1.
any of several large, primarily carrion-eating Old World birds of prey of the family Accipitridae, often having a naked head and less powerful feet than those of the related hawks and eagles.
2.
any of several superficially similar New World birds of the family Cathartidae, as the turkey vulture.
3.
a person or thing that preys, especially greedily or unscrupulously: That vulture would sell out his best friend.

Your family deserves zero respect from us and will get none.  Lots of early fighting put you with lots of NAP's, poor diplomacy situations and huge ego's which was your main weakness.  Your egos are so huge rather than fighting like a man you  opt to give your planets to 38.  Real leaders never give up on their fam's and certainly don't self destruct their own families so that they don't bruise egos. 

- We have not opted to give our planets to 38. WHen you guys cancelled on us before we were napped to 38 we were put in an awkward position. We needed to peace with them ASAP, and with them knowing this, they could demand an insane amount of planets from us, we had no choice but to accept. Your fam has statted repeatedly you will take us down to 500 planets, as the leader of the fam its my duty to make sure we do as well as possible, and thats what im doing.

read my message please remo i know u can do it

Fam pic doesn't show context. I'd like to see said context. I've sent messages like that (not necessarily market aid obv) a million times as a joke. Somehow, something tells me Noir wouldn't *actually* *seriously* ask for market aid.

It's not even because Noir is somehow An Honourable Player. I just don't buy it.

Noir stop bitching...at the sor you guys forced us to nap you playing dirty....so now it`s our turn...so if you accept or not, FIGHT ! instead you choose to complain cause we cancel you...

you deserve 0 respect Noir by your attitude!
i am telling you this:

Definition of stupid: knowing the truth, seeing the truth but still talking bullshit...

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@noir and @IC Death ! read this :

Cojones (Spanish pronunciation: [koˈxones]) is a vulgar Spanish word for testicles or, denoting courage when used in the phrase "tener cojones" (equivalent to English "have the balls to"). It is considered a curse word when used by itself as an expletive in Spanish. In English, as a loanword, it means courage, brazenness, "nerve", "guts", etc.

the day before we raided, i went to talic ..point out the bounderies of the agreemten....he totaly agreed. We just beat them to it and raided first. Didnt break anythng....Talic show them reports i know u have them!

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