Re: 41 vs 46 Final War

> Remo wrote:

> What it boils down to is this was gonna happen whether 41 won the war with 38 or not. It's more 1 sided now that you got your butts handed to you by 38, but it not 46's fault that happened. 41 pulled some dishonourable stuff at the start of the round and now they are down playing it and make 46 look like the bad guys. If you guys didn't want an EOR war, why make a nap that cannot be cancelled before the 15th?

Lol remo, you must not have followed the war at all if you think 41 got their butts handed to them by 38. Ask any one in 38 and they will tell you it was a very evenly matched fight. The only "dishonorable" thing 41 did early on was wanted to war everyone. This is a war game, how is that dishonorable?

52 (edited by Remo 20-Nov-2012 04:48:23)

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If you don't consider what you guys did early on dishonourable then you will agree there is nothing wrong with what we are doing now is my main point. Noir is being hypocritical. Hes saying there is nothing wrong with breaking a CF and explo raiding a fam, but that what we are doing is dishonorable which is completely false.
And if you didnt get your butt kicked why are you paying 38 so many planets?

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<@SerialBusiness> good to know. I will make a note of this

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What goes around, comes around.

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too much talking and not enough fighting lol basically what 46 is saying is 41 did dishonorable moves in the BOR and now 46 is here to return the favor? kinda humoring if u ask me.. low but humoring.. i see even with the most honorable players they resort to dishonorable actions when they've had dishonorable acts done towards them... so kinda sounds like me lol.. cant be a angel when ur surrounded by demons.. been saying it all round.. oh well.. but no offense to anyone in 46 but u guys ran from every fight BOR u NAPPED everyone and eco'd lol nice tactic just cowardly.. u fought no one.. reminds me of Noir's fam last round.. NAPPED everyone then warred people at the end when his eco was far superior

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So the fight against you didn't count?  I guess neither did all of the eco skirmishes?  Guess neither did 48?  Guess neither did 44 at BOR?

As I've pointed out, everyone seems to change the definitions every round as to what wins to suit their current conditions.  My point is that if you lie and raid people at BOR, be prepared to fight a real war later.  You can try to pay 1k planets to get out of it and hand the win to someone else (nothing against 38, they have fine players and have done a fine job), but actions have consequences.  Fighting that war is not dishonorable.  That is not cowardly.  Often people speak of 'here is the problem with the game...'.  Well we are addressing one of the problems.  If low brow moves and players are dealt with in the round in which the problems are created, those moves and those problems happen more infrequently. 

I've always been a no-nap advocate.  The game unfortunately has changed.  Now, you have to sometimes make naps simply to prepare for the likey early nap cancellation (or whatever else 41 had publicly suggested they might do to 46).  Once again, actions have consequences, and that is what has lead to this war.  Since the violation of the E-phase boundary agreement and attempt by 41 to ruin 46's round, this round hasn't been about the win, so much as ensuring that dishonesty was addressed.  Even if the obscene 1,000 planet nap payment to 38 means 38 win's the planet count this round, our goal has been, and will continue to be to ensure that 41 gets what they deserve.

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You seem to be changing the definition more than anyone tho middle and you keep trying to spread the false rumor that 41 was violating any agreement we had, or that we wanted to cancel on you early. Its just BS and u wont convince anyone with it. Im sorry

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How nice of 46 to work with 48 to kill us sad

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Oh so now the pot is calling the kettle black?

Now you are accusing us of an IA?

Why the hell would you even think about doing that knowing full well Baratheon is not mentally sane?

Oh and by the way, who cancelled on 47 after 40 had already cancelled on 47? Was that IA? Was that dishonorable? Oh wait no, you had some bullshit excuse for that. Good thing 40 backed off. In any case, none of our business.

Call it vulturing if you want, noir. But you do not deserve to be anywhere near the win this round. And we will make sure you won't be. With Airwings words: It's time people played this game decently. If the game is to be saved, then that has to happen very soon. No more bullshit excuses for anything. Straight up talk and not trying to cut turns the whole round just to win. Cuz, I'm not gonna lie, we didn't really care that much for the win this round, but more about 41 not winning.

And again, what the hell, Noir? Are you trying to make yourself look good? Why the hell would anyone work with Baratheon of all people? Goes to show what kind of a person you are. You're the bloody same as Airwing and by extension everyone else in your fam. You screwed your round with your play style and your attitude.

Props to 38 for winning the round.

I'm on fire!

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We played the round hardcore talic, we have fought every other top fam successfully and we played hardball early round, we went no poppers when everyone else was infrabooming, and we made some action in the game, while ur fam was advocating napping and booming, so dont come talk here about how poeple need to play differently to save the game. Cause we were the fresh breath of air this round, not your family wink.

Why anyone would work with bara? Lord only knows why, i can only see that you are tongue. For christ sakes, lighten up, you really think i was seriously accusing you for working with bara?

LORD HELP OREGON

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What, you want me to not take you seriously after all the bullshit you posted?

And you played the hardcore. Sure. You also lost the round because you pissed off half the galaxy.

There's other ways of playing the round hardcore. And seeing that you now have pop bankers as well, seems to me you figured you had made the wrong call on not having pop bankers.

I'm on fire!

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Talic, it was a deliberate call, we wanted to play this way to see how it would work. Keep in mind that my fam has been #1 the last 4 consecutive rounds using pop banking strategy. I was ready for something else. When some of our players had to leave mid round we had to change strategy, and might i add quite successfully. We ended up fighting a war with 38 where we were on par with them.

If the rest of the fam hadnt been sitting booming while we were fighting, we wouldve won the round im pretty sure, but in the end we ended up unable to fight #1 and #2 fam within 5 days, as any other fam in the galaxy would be.

LORD HELP OREGON

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Noir: "You seem to be changing the definition more than anyone tho middle"
Noir: " Keep in mind that my fam has been #1 the last 4 consecutive rounds"

No actually, we won last round.  Did you forget that?


Noir: "spread the false rumor that 41 was violating any agreement we had"

You did violate it.  Sorry but that is just the simple truth.


Noir: "How nice of 46 to work with 48 to kill us"
Noir: "For christ sakes, lighten up, you really think i was seriously accusing you for working with bara?"

What was to identify that as a joke?


Noir: "we played hardball early round"

And that is why your economy was so bad that breaking the agreement with us was the only way of slowing us down and having a shot at catching up with the pop switch.


The reason I identify so many things you say as innacurate, is because they are.   Look at the first statement, you again are changing the win definition, as you didn't win last round, and won't win this round.  Who will?  That is to be determined.  Again, you reap what you sow.  In the end, will all be sorted soon.

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Did i say we won last round in that message? I said we were #1, and we were, by nw and by score and by size for 90% of the round until some of the famlies we had beaten speeded up their farming towards the end wink.

You say we violated that agreement, but thats incorrect, there was no such agreement active, we tried to make a new one with you, but you refused. End fo discussion.

If u cant understand basic sarcasm, then i will start flagging posts for you so its easier to understand.

And yes, we did play hardball early round, and naturally that costs eco, thus we started fighting you, and did so successfully, and once again stop blaming the agreement you claim was in place.

We wont agree on this it seems, so lets just leave it, we wil fight u and prove you have nothing on us smile

LORD HELP OREGON

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fight us ? you are giving all your planets to 38 already (free tongue) just to not let us win size. wink

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pointing your finger at me talic for playing shitty when ur playing with impire and middle ...kinda holds some dobble standards imo tongue

Airwing

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Also early on we made a border agreement to keep the peace, the whole idea of that agreement was to make it a nap in the follwing time (witch was stated in the agreement) when i came to you a while after asking to sort that nap, u declined the nap offer smile  so we made u nap instead, imo it wasnt the most honarble move true.
But u cant pretend to be a night in shining armor when u been backing Impire's shady play all round tongue

Airwing

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portgas when u guys cancelled on us i had to nap 38 imidiately, and had to make them an offer so good they couldnt refuse.

LORD HELP OREGON

68 (edited by Remo 20-Nov-2012 13:10:08)

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Noir, I dont care if you had officially napped 38 at the point when we had cancelled on you or not, there were no planets changing hands any longer so as far as we were concerned the war was over. Unless of course you were trying to hide behind a war block? Pass as many planets as you want to 38, as Middle said, after the broken agreement early on, our definition of "winning" this round changed. <-- you should know all about this since your definition changes with each round to suit you

<&InSaNe> so for reference tco has a ticklish bumhole
<@SerialBusiness> good to know. I will make a note of this

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You can say what you want Remo, everyones definition changes it seems. Our definition of success this round was to get our bold strategy to work. Imo it did work, but the way the game is played atm does not really suit it, so ultimately you are better off just infrabooming and farming like you guys did.

LORD HELP OREGON

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My god, the discussion about Honour and stuff is still going? I remember it starting like 9 or 10 years ago. Is that what keeps this game running? People whinning on eachother about attacks or opps. If everybody would take a look at themselfs before they start pointing out fingers then I think this forum would be a lot nicer smile

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71 (edited by Remo 20-Nov-2012 14:10:37)

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WE farmed no one this round Noir. You can say what you want if it helps boost your epeen but we didnt farm anyone. Did we take a few planets from some smaller fams? Yes we did but nowhere near enough to consider it farming. I know you guys took planets from smaller fams as well. I dont know how far your head must be shoved up your arse but it must be pretty far if you think the only way people can beat your fam is by farming. Thats what you always say, if a fam beats you then they must have farmed. Not the case here, your not gonna win the round and your bitter about that. It just bothers me that you dont think any other fam besides your own is capable of winning unless they cheat. It bothers me even more that your definition of "farming" changes depending on whether its your fam doing it, or whether its any other fam doing it.

<&InSaNe> so for reference tco has a ticklish bumhole
<@SerialBusiness> good to know. I will make a note of this

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who gives a [InSaNe] whats happened now, just play the game have the war and some fun and move on, u guys flamming each other is just stupid

gilmour999

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You are completely missing the ball here remo...

When the #2 fam in a round hasnt fought a single decent war the whole round, thats when i call them out.

LORD HELP OREGON

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> Noir wrote:

> You are completely missing the ball here remo...

When the #2 fam in a round hasnt fought a single decent war the whole round, thats when i call them out.

We planned on fighting a good war at the end of this round, but since you guys got your butts kicked in the only good war you fought this round it sorta put an end to that smile We made the nap with you guys so that it was not cancellable until the 15th for a reason, so that we could have a good EOR war, we didnt know you made naps with half the galaxy like that until long AFTER we made our nap with you.

<&InSaNe> so for reference tco has a ticklish bumhole
<@SerialBusiness> good to know. I will make a note of this

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So you admit then that you havent fought a single decent war this round. Thank you smile

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