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Re: Orion Nebula Battle Arena

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> Lets get mods to implement stuff they have limited control over, then whine when it doesnt work as planned anyhow tongue

You all are against infrawhoring the round away yet you all do it. Ppl like avoiding the imminent raping so they infrawhore. Its the players gameplay mindset that needs to change, not the rulings. We throw down more restrictions and we wont hear the end of it all tongue


I feel the exact opposite way. The game mechanics+rules need to be built such that they govern player's mindsets and push it in a more conflicty direction. The aim of a game is to try to win and its natural human nature to take the best path there. If the game mechanics promote infra-whoring then players will obviously do that. Asking or expecting people on an online game to play a certain way which is counter-productive towards the goal of winning is not very smart imo.

@Noir Im sure 25+ ppl (real empires with good infra+pcount) have died through DSes tongue but yea that was bit earlier. I agree its extremely hard to do this late into the round when everyone has portals up.

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"Talk about being a coward and only playing on the defence. "

I have no other choice.

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> > Noir wrote:

> Render i have infils of players that log in once every 3 days, all they do is infra, and add a few more soldiers and agents, and they remain impossible to kill.

I would rather say they are perfect targets, if they login once every 3 days you can easily place a lasertrap or even portal in one of their systems.



And then what you do?

Now you are portalled with a guy that has a DS 20 portals 20k agents and 20k soliders.... Do you want me to do the math on how many soliders are required to kill that? Not to mention if he has fighters instead :S

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Noir there are 15 players right now with more than 65 planets, you can ezpect 65 are protected by DSs if they are in the same 3 systems, what about the others??  Attack where they dont have the DS is the goal, and somehow force them to move a DS and then caught em offguard, etc.. there are many tactics, but mainly if you can take all those unprotected portals and leave your oponents only with those 3 DS systems the difference in NW and size will soon be so huge that you'll be able to easily destroy a DS and rebuild the lost fleet within a day

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Render you are completely missing the point, are you even in Orion btw? If you are you should know that the people im talking about have nothing outside their DS protected systems. You are just trying to be smart and circumventing the problem, but you are failing dramatically

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lolz

talks the guy who sitted in his HS,   when i was first who spend 2days income to  jump bombers,
and agents to nuke

didnt work too well, had to  go defense

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Awesome! other round bored in new galaxy... yikes

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What Jaguar said above is the smartest thing I've read in this topic. Besides the fact that this whole topic started as a cry for attention from Noir, even if we want to change the behavior for people it will never work with rules or guidelines. Big example is Score, nobody cares about it and it should be removed. Everytime you go to the rankings page you either have to sort by NW or Size because it is NEVER score that you want to see.

Jaguar said it right: "the game mechanics+rules need to be built such that they govern player's mindsets and push it in a more conflicty direction. The aim of a game is to try to win and its natural human nature to take the best path there."


If we want to change the fact that people have to have more conflict then there are a few easy changes that can be made but somehow mods prefer to do the opposite:

1. LESS planets per player, in the current regular galaxies a family could keep exploring until the end without the need for conflict. The only reason there is conflict is because some people are not smart enough to realise that conflict is never a good idea if you can still explore!

2. The possibility to go 200% speed like camaar with a custom race, maybe even go so far as to give more race points (especially SS)

3. More opponents. Which means merge MW and PW or allow people to play both and make smaller families. Maybe make 30-40 families each round and let them fill up equally.

These are changes that will actually bring more conflict instead of the normal but silly ideas like making some sort of mod police family or change score into something more useful. I don't think they will ever be implemented because the same people that complain every round there isn't enough conflict ARE the ones that don't want change and actually like the way it is but just like to complain to look cool.

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HOw about instead of DS getting destroyed, it gets captured.  Then there's more of an incentive to blow fleet taking one?

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