Ryan got his aas handed to him by Biden. Was clear for everyone to see, except those who watch foxnews

The way i see it the debates in total so far has been about equal, maybe with a slight favour to Romney, however this is a win for romney as about 2-3 weeks ago noone even saw him as a real candidate, with his odds for winning was judged to be around 20%. Should be alot closer now

Props to Ryan for staying calm? I'd say props to Obama and Biden for not losing it at the amount of sheer bs that comes out of republican's mouths. But that's just me.

Yell,

Incorrect. There is a religious exemption. The controversy is over religious organizations that provide public services, such as Universities and NGOs.

HotDogBun,

Alex Jones is surely nuts. But do you really think he's worse than the mainstream press in America? Do you really think he's wrong about everything he talks about? I ask these questions because, while I agree he's a lunatic and very wrong frequently, the fact is he talks about a lot of things which aren't disputed by anybody. Which nobody else has the balls/will to talk about.

Dirty Iluvatar,

I agree. Americans being murdered is hilarious. National politics is hilarious. Debate is hilarious. Biden, genius that he is, given the economic prosperity we're enjoying with him as VP, really was too good to be there. He didn't look like a moron at all. He won, hands-down, as you say. Obviously anyone who disagrees watches Fox News, the station of the other half of Republicrats. Keen observation!

Baratheon,

Can you update us? I'm not up-to-date on PRC's elections this year. My bad. I'll get back to it when I catch up on my reading!

Bartman,

You don't think both parties are guilty of BS? When Obama lied about Romney's statements regarding oil permits, was that not the same thing? When Obama refused to answer the guy's question about why security concerns were ignored, instead just rambling about caring about Americans, was that not the same thing?

[rejected costume],

My favorite line (couldn't stomach watching the whole thing, granted) was something like, "If they're in agreement, why do they keep suing you?" regarding the Church and Obamacare's birth control/contraceptive mandates.

Justinian I,

Incorrect! It doesn't exempt everyone with religious beliefs which prohibit them from adhering to the law w/o violating their first amendment rights. Overgeneralizing is bad mmmmkay. An inadequate "religious exemption" which only protects _some_ people's first amendment rights does not protect everyone's.

It's government's job to provide contraception and mandate who provides it to who? When did you become a fascist/communist?

I don't really like Ryan's liberal agenda, i mean once you say the federal government owes me a voucher so I get healthcare, bam, the federal government ought to pay for my healthcare no matter what it costs. I mean if $25K will buy good healthcare, $26K will buy better.  And how about $28K.  And imagine what $40K would buy! Don't tell me you can't afford it. Gimme.
And this idea about a 30 year plan to pay down the deficit while you do that...sure, if you imagine we'll have 30 straight years of 3% GDP growth.  Which we never have.  I distrust 10 year plans from Washington as if some neighbor offered me a 10 year plan not to burgle my car.  I don't have to read it; the fact that you need a plan to do the right thing is a baaaaaaaaaaaad sign.

But he's not a spastic old pathological drunk, and Biden is.

> Mister Spock wrote:

> HotDogBun,

>You said "NEARLY." That's all i was after. I've never heard anybody dispute his claims about various fascist/communist organizations/politicians/academics who enjoy relatively mainstream popularity in Amerika. I can appreciate him bringing light to these people/organizations, which is something which absolutely no "conservative" organizations do because they harbor their own crazies whose focus is similar, just dedicated to attacking different freedoms. Of course... He is bat-shit crazy and frequently completely full of it. I'm not saying I respect him, just that I don't respect anyone else either on topics of actual importance.

When I say  'nearly' I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that he is telling the truth about his name or what he is having for lunch or that he might correctly match a world leader to the correct country. Aside from that, everything he says is a mixture of ignorance and misinformation.

both suck. need to find an actual leader to be president.