> Render wrote:

> ^ you are trolling the mods, right?

I think it is important that everyone is clear on what trolling is exactly.  For one, the reason some people get accused of trolling is because they don't know they are trolling because they don't know what trolling is, which, in such a case, would make the one accusing the person of trolling the one doing the trolling, wouldn't it?  I mean it's not like a person can be guilty of committing trolling if they didn't know what trolling was and so only person making the accusation knows what trolling is and is thus the more likely culprit of trolling, no?  I mean, how could it be possible for someone to commit trolling if they don't know exactly what trolling is?  Doesn't part of the definition of trolling involve intending to derail a topic?  And so when someone accuses the person who is trolling but doesn't know it isn't the topic automatically derailed by the accusation?

Anyway, it seems unfair that they might get a ban a newb for trolling just because some nasty veteran forum poster who knows what trolling is accuses them of trolling when they don't even know what trolling is or didn't even intent to troll.

So, it just seems like a good idea for everyone if some clear definition of trolling is provided by the mods so everybody is clear on what trolling is so if someone accuses someone of trolling they themselves don't get accused of trolling by the person they are accused of trolling and thus avoid a huge troll fest, you see?

And, Render, I personally take offense to you trolling me by accusing me of trolling mods.  I would never think of doing such a thing!  Grr! X(

Maybe trolling and spamming definition can be mentioned in the official IC FAQ?  First, can someone just explain what trolling is exactly?

So, what is trolling?  I can't find any answer anywhere!!  Not in FAQ, not in rulebook:

http://www.imperialconflict.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=151708

Thanks Wendy.  That was very helpful for people reading this thread, but what about the community?  Like if there is going to be a rule against trolling, it should be explained maybe in the official rulebook.  Or is trolling to be considered condoned and permitted on this forum?

"Signs that your trolling is unsuccesful:
*Your victim identifying you as a troll."

For you to be so obsessed with this topic and have whined about it for months, it sounds like you've been counter-trolled. Nobody believes you couldn't find a definition of "trolling" on the web, so there's no really need to define counter-trolling either.

Also note that "trolling" is commonly used to refer to idiots looking for attention, beyond attempts at inflicting emotional distress. While "good" trolling (that is, trolling by non-morons) generally aims for emotional reactions in order to achieve the most entertaining responses, there are legions of idiots who will spam anything that they obviously do not sincerely believe just to get any attention at all. While these methods do not include the trademark aim of inducing emotional distress, both are people spamming because they hate themselves and want attention. "Troll" is, in common use, used to describe both.

From what I have seen the mods do punish people for Trolling already. If you break the forum rules you will be warned & if you carry on you will be punished, simple.

> [TI] Wendy wrote:

> From what I have seen the mods do punish people for Trolling already. If you break the forum rules you will be warned & if you carry on you will be punished, simple.

Okay, so if the mods punish people for trolling already, shouldn't there be at least some mention of it in the rules?  I read through the rules and there is no rule against trolling.

And so here I am, getting accused of trolling everyone, fearing some arbitrary judgment and punishment by the mods, for some violation of the rules which isn't in the rulebook?  I mean, WTF?

How should we handle trolling to the faq and official rules?  Maybe I should I start a thread in ideas about this?  Or would that be considered spamming?  Maybe I'll get banned for that?

TY Zarf

It's been in the rules for yonks, but I always say people have trouble reading at times

In general or personally?

The mods do not decide what trolling is; trolling is trolling. So no need to redefine what already is. I am not sure what you are looking for, some black and white definition on which the mods can uphold the trolling rules? All forum rules are upheld by subjective decisions, whether it is trolling, spamming or any other rule.

Oh Elro you hadn't posted at the time i wrote mine out X(

But forum posting is laggin for me! Just as a side