before 9/11 if anybody in DC stood up and said "We need the FBI to wiretap so the CIA can assassinate or else illegal aliens will do a kamikaze stunt on skyscrapers with hijacked jets" that guy would have been crucified as an example to the others

that's why I'm not very hard on Clinton for not stopping it.  in the 1990s "CIA + FBI = Watergate" and there's no way Slick Willy would have got away with it

Bush failed to stop the Muslim assault on the Democrat nomination <rimshot>

> scholesy wrote:

> [No personal attacks.  Please keep your posts directed at issues, not people]

but somehow ppl are allowed to discuss ppls religious believes and mention religious figures as if they were any day Dick and Tom!

come on respect ppls religions and ill respect ppl (its a bit pathetic that einstien is aiming at the arabs n mentions how to kill them n controll them but u take offence to me callin him something which cud be true!!)

come on mods pay attention pls

@Einstein
>We killed so many terrorists under Bush they were collapsing, running out of money. No longer true thanks to Obama

But it turns out the terrorists weren't the only ones running out of money. Its pretty safe to say the USA would have been stronger in fighting the current credit crisis and housing crisis had they not needed to fund two 10-year wars in forgein countries.

Sure, the current economic state cant be blamed on those wars, however i think the costs of those 2 wars thusfar (from a economic viewpoint) seriously outweigh the gains.

As for defeating terrorists. I do not feel terrorism is something you can defeat with violence. Thats fighting the symtomes. Fighting the cause, the reason they turn extreme, is the only way to stop terrorism.
However this is still very, very far away

Yes,Bush was so popular people threw shoes and hand grenades at him

Two more 'arab spring' nations assaulting embassies.

Marines fired into the crowd at one.

Other areas are having activities happen outside embassies... welll see what happens.

Where is Obama's leadership? This is his call at 2am...

Supposedly somewhere somehow they reformed over the last 70 years. Don't ask me when, no liberal wants to be quoted on when

It's hard to help people fight for freedom when they're not actually fighting for freedom.

It's not all of them, of course. But the fact that nobody stops them must be indicative of something. I don't see anyone decrying the violent barbarians and demanding that they be brought to justice for violating their respective countries' diplomatic agreements in regard to embassies and diplomats. Just a lot of crying about some weirdo's free speech that nobody has heard or cares to hear.

We don't kill other nations' diplomats and attack their embassies, even when they're a bunch of wankers. The height of hypocrisy is Libya doing this after we ridded them of Gaddafi. They want freedoms. They want help getting those freedoms. They just don't want too many freedoms. And they'll murder your diplomats if some unknown weirdo from that same nation--of hundreds of millions--makes an unseen film you don't like. While it's not all of them, the fact is it's many and the rest of their society doesn't do anything about it.

We shouldn't be propping up any dictators. At least, if we only shot people who step on our lawn, our hands would be clean when we respond to haters. But since we wage war for corporate interests (and, now, NWO), we're not exactly faultless.

bad timing for Obama.
He can't go to war over this, to pricy, to risky and without a UN mandate the entire political world will fall over him.
He can't go to easy, seeing as the embassy is sovern US soil.

Either way, lots of voters are gonne disagree with whatever he does, while Romney can pretty much go hardline on it, seeing as his calls dont matter yet, except for the campain.