Re: A conversation with Key: Why your ideas are a failure.

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As long as people get government assistance, that means the people will pay for products with government money.  That does not mean that corporate america will hire.  They just see some guy wish money paying for their product and go, "Hey we don't have to hire people, the government just hands them money to pay for our product".  Government assistance was only meant for TEMPORARY purchases of goods to keep onself afloat in a bad economy.  Not, "Taxpayers will have to pay for people not looking for jobs anymore."  To me that's complete lazyness on most peoples parts.  It's bad for the people, it's bad for business, and it's bad for the governmant, all in the long run.
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Sorry... hard time understanding this part but I think you just said:

Corporations don't need to hire since the Government is giving people money to buy their products with.


That would be a fallacy ofc. No company can go without someone making products, shipping products, planning, doing taxes, etc.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: A conversation with Key: Why your ideas are a failure.

"Because four years isn't enough time to get anything done."

Since when?

Oh right since Obama sucked.

>I am thankful for these assistance services, and I can imagine that there are others like myself who have been in this situation.

The point I am trying to make is that without the availability of a program like SNAP or Medicaid, there would be no limit to how far people could fall. I would fight hard to preserve the availability of SNAP and Medicaid because I have seen that anybody can fall...<

Yeah BUT

Remember when that oil rig blew up in the Gulf of Mexico and Obama came back with a "moratorium" on drilling that put hundreds of thousands out of work?  And they complained to Congress about not having jobs for months?  And Obama's answer was, OK but so what, you get unemployment.

That's the problem with those programs, the new, progressive, totally destructive attitude that if you, a trained worker, get government aid...you can STAY there, cause that's as good as a job.

I don't want to "preserve" the middle class.   I want an economy where you have to take extra steps to STAY middle class, like, refusing to invest anything or set up an IRA.  But to our Paternal Government, once you get your guaranteed income, anything else is Extra.  Extra belongs to Government first, your family last.

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