Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

In WWII's earliest days Hitler was supposedly loved by all in Germany.

They had crushed their longterm enemy the French (quite like a bug in fact) and his steal from the Jews to finance his national plans was working.

The earliest smuggling and sheltering of Jews started during this time.

One notable avenue for safety was Germanys navy where they had protection from the naval leadership.

Later others started plotting against Hitler (including a bodyguard) and more people helped smuggle Jews to safety.

And of course there were some that were deemed traitors who probably just failed to please Hitler (and who also lacked support from Generals like Himmler).


The point I am making Chris is that sometimes the resistance to certain idealisms exists even within the structures of that which you may hate.

Chris I keep on you on this. I want you to join the resistance. I want you to plot with us the political overthrow of the Establishment Republicans and the RINO's. The Conservative resistance can use you.

You can become a Colonel, or even General, in this effort. Will you sit by as Hitler completes his fantasies, as Himmler does his crimes, as Goebels makes the biggest lies seem like truth? Or will you fire up a printing press and hand out covertly handbillls showing the truth? Will you note who commits atrocities and pass it along or will you sit in a wall hiding and waiting for a patrol to eventually find you?

If you don't like what you see you can leave. I cannot force you onto the line. What harm is there in seeing what this recruiter offers?

I use symbolism here to help guide you to a choice. I think you may understand... but you might want to be a solo alpha, bent on your own prey. Or you might think it unwinnable and desire to live through the coming storm as best you can.

Is it so hard to listen in a pub to a man talking of freedoms and rights back in 1768 or will you, afraid, drink your ale at home?

Will you help write the new Magna Carta, the new Bill of Rights, the new Declaration of Independence? (Not a civil war item but a paper of the greatest importance for the rights and freedoms of mankind!)

Will you stand in that hall in Philadelphia and argue the importance of Rights, Freedoms, Checks and Balances with those in 1787?

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

umm Hitler was crazy, IF Himmler was a General, then surely the worst ever.

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

as being part german, im offended that you seem to paint a negative picture of hitler and the nazi regime

So I told the cop, "No YOU'RE driving under the influence... of being a JERK!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFjjO_lhf9c

Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

Godwin's Law!  I win!

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

Sorry Zarf but Godwins law does not apply to threads started about Nazi Germany tongue

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

> dpenguins wrote:

> as being part german, im offended that you seem to paint a negative picture of hitler and the nazi regime




Part German? so you have Russian blood lines haha wink

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

yes but your thread isn't really about the nazi's now is it Einstein so therefore goodwins law trumps your statement:p

" Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

@Flint

There are always some defectors who disagree with the government. The german forces fought fiercely until the end, especially against the Russians, even after Hitler had killed himself. The killing of the jews and other minorities went on until enemy forces stood at the gates of the death camps. The coup of 1944 failed not only by bad luck, the military leadership wanted that war and blocked the attempts of the conspirators during the coup.

Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

Hi Loth,

Can I ask how old you are?

Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

Loth....

I used it as a cover so the ignorant, like Firewing, would discuss the apparent topic, while Chris could feel free to read it all tongue

Worked well huh?

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

Hitler bit off more than he could chew.  He should have been happy with what he had, and then moved on a decade or two down the road.

But that's one of those What If's i'd rather not think about.  Mostly because Hitler was a real monster.

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

Yet another troll caught. Lol

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

All the good work you are doing, if done outside the Republican Party, would still gather opponents of totalitarianism without benefiting the globalist, center-left crooks running the GOP.  It would be more effective. And every example of beneficial work you do within the GOP, I would counter, would be more effective and unqualified good, if it were done outside the GOP.

As for historical similarities, try 1940s Balkans.  Either you're for the Reds or you're backing corrupt aristocrats.

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Re: A WWII discussion, the traitors to Hitler

Closed.

Einstein, stop trolling politics. Final warning.

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