i am in this family, ergo facto, most honourable fam in the galaxy!

There's a Dutch name that is a very suitable nick for Magni, Dick! (in this context it's not a swear word, just a plain normal name )

To be honest, I think most of this is based on misunderstanding, but meh.

I am not involved in fam politics enough to really know what's going on.

here's what's been going on:

- i talked with Lee 2 RL weeks ago and said if they stopped coming towards us we wouldn't attack them.  every time but once it was them hitting us first after a period of peace (i.e. several RL days).  the one time we hit first was when wiwi tried to clear an instant and failed and got cleared in return.
- all this time, i've been asking Lee and co. about a PNAP.  it was PNAP or nothing for us.  we didn't want them to set up on us via a cancellation NAP.  Lee and Sol say they'll only give us a cancellation NAP.  we'd have to pay planets for a PNAP.  either option wasn't going to work out on us.
- i messaged them our reply, and then we start clearing because clearly conflict was the only option left for the meantime.

you guys got cleared of your spread around us.  i deportalled my spread around you guys and even told you guys about it.  now if i was really coming after you guys in the beginning, would i have done that?  i didn't think so.

first of all, i think you may want to look up what a fact is, that clearly is an opinion

also, stop the bitching, have a nice fight, what happens happens.

Hehehehe.... start first real war....  have fun both families and one Great Kiss in the arse of God Mars!!!!

thats funny thats exactly what happened how ktiger describes it, so he must know from experiance.

In this case Doobie is 100% spot on.

bring on the losing cause called raids, its all about planet count and your LONG distance raid will do NOTHING to get you planets haha.

We have 4 attackers to your 2 and we have already pushed you WAY WAY back so I LOVE the idea of a war until the EOR which allows us to continue to beat your fam in size haha

oh and we have your infils 57 has 1mil not 5mil

But we would love to beat you with your 5mil too

well, since i never go to chat I cant comment on whats been done or not done, surely you dont think I should believe something I have no evidence on? And I know we dont care about fighting till eor either cause that makes boring = fun

as for naps etc there again I aint leader nor have I made even 1 vote for or against naps, I pretty much been a loner all round.

But be assured it was the RIGHT thing bro to remove you guys from us cause in the end it will assure your fam doesnt sneak one over us and will assure we beat your fam in the end

But i still wuv you berry mucho graciass and all that kinda stuff