Re: The Media turns on Obama

In a remarkable series of events Obama and the Media are getting a divorce.

Newsweek is endorsing Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.

Obama turned down an interview by Chris, a tingle in my leg, Mathews and offered Biden instead.

The President has not held a Press Conference in almost a year. He avoids questions...

The relationship is ending. Oh true.. some parts of the media will still love him, but for the majority the marriage is over.

The amount of hate coming from the media over the choice of moderators for the Presidential debates is also staggering.

The number of news stories critical of Biden are jumping as well. Even more so at least five lefty publications bemoaned the double standards given for Bidens blunders where a Republican would not get the same.

Anger at the lack of school reform, job growth, fiscal responsibility and openess of the administration is taking its toll.

Many publications are actually starting to agree with the Romney/Ryan Plan for Prosperity.


At first I, lile many Conservatives, thought it was CYA by the media... but they keep upping the rhetoric and they are going to give real numbers to Romney now...

I am shocked the media shook off its love affair with Obama long enough to see what a loser he really is.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Baratheon I claim writers privledge. That trumps your format desires.

Anyhow your post is off topic and probably shall vanish.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: The Media turns on Obama

> Einstein wrote:

> The President has not held a Press Conference in almost a year. He avoids questions...



He just had one today.  tongue

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Yes quite sudden like after the bitching had gotten very loud. LoL

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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I find it bizarre that you think a bunch of socialists are going to turn on their president.

They're going to give him a rare poke because he obviously deserves it and they want to preserve the illusion of being objective for REALLY gullible people.

At the end of the day, he's their boy: He'll move this country in the direction they want more than anybody else. The love affair will continue.

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I do like this little delusion you have that the "left" is somehow united.... It doesn't surprise me that some "leftist" bloggers might be critical of the right-wing Obama....

But then again....

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Of course they're united.

Every socialist knows he's their best candidate by far.

Every welfare bum knows he's their best candidate by far.

When expansion of federal power, the authority of the executive branch, and handouts are your sole concerns, it's easy to unite.

Where are there any major divisions among the left? The only things commies complain about is that Obama isn't commie enough. This strikes me as ignorant, because he only held back JUST enough to get things passed.

He wanted a "public option." He wanted "cap and trade." He wanted to redistribute more wealth. He wanted to pay off his supporters billions more--both by bailing out unaffordable public sector union pensions via "stimulus" and big money backers via "green" handouts.

Every complaint I see is either lip service to being objective, or ignorant of the fact that he's not a dictator and his will is not law. He barely pulled off Obamacare after tons of effort, and even that he had to hold off on the "public option" to pull off.

Evidence that there's any real division on the left, please?

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The president of the US is not some lousy Mitt Romney who has to defend why many republicans have strange ideas of rape and why he changed his mind on this matter over the last years. Press conferences of Obama were rare, but when he now turned to the media everybody wanted to hear what he said = Maximum mobilisation and public attention.

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Kemp: I am sorry, I forgot that it was pointless to respond in a thread you were posting in, please accept my withdraw of my post... i wouldn't want to have facts enter this discussion

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I asked you for facts. You didn't present any. Way to take the intellectual high ground.

I have explained why Obama ultimately ends up with a pretty united socialist/welfare bum base: Complain as they may, they still support him. Sure they complain he hasn't gone socialist enough, but they have no better option. They're not voting for Romney. And a lot of them show up as surely as they want a bigger welfare check and unemployment for 2+ years.

Where is your explanation of how they're actually split beyond complaining that he's not socialist enough (he couldn't get more socialist policy passed: his policies don't really even speak of him but of the composition of Congress)? I didn't demand citations, I asked you for an argument.

You haven't made one. You're just spamming.

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Because there is no point in responding....

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13 (edited by V. Kemp 22-Aug-2012 08:06:49)

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You're not exactly setting an example.

Why don't you try, making a point in the process? You're implying that you're not only capable, but that it's your normal mode of responding. Where's the evidence to back up this assertion? I don't strongly disagree. I'm open to evidence and explanation of how the "left" may be legitimately fractured. But you're not exactly convincing me, let alone anyone else.

Like this, you're spamming and I'm talking honestly about the topic. I have twice offered my thoughts and pointed out that you haven't made any case for your claims--absolutely no explanation whatsoever. This would be the third time.

If I'm legitimately the spammer and you're the intellectual heavy-weight, shouldn't it be the other way around?

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Kemp: sorry I meant there is no point in trying to respond to you, there is only so much  I can metaphorically smash my head against a wall, and I chose my own thread as opposed to some pointless dribble.

If you cannot yourself see why saying "the left" is united is stupid, then I cannot say anything to help you, and given any past interactions with you if I try all I will do is get to a point where you basically say 'but I believe something different so I am right'


Actually lets try this a different way: Is the entire "right" united behind Romney? So there will only be two people voted for in the upcoming election, no one will vote for different people and no-one will not vote because they don't feel that the candidates represent their view-points.

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So you're not going to make any point whatsoever.

BUT you ARE going to CRY about someone who did!

People aren't united behind Romney. And I can explain why. I can explain why they won't bother voting. Or why they'll vote for other people.

Yet when you say people aren't united behind Obama, you are unable to explain why they won't bother voting or they'll vote for other people. I have explained why many will still vote and vote for Obama; the self-interests and ideals of his primary constituents are very obviously served and best-served by Obama. You haven't responded with any explanation of mitigating factors which make this less so than I implied.

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I plan to vote for Obama only because I want to keep social conservatives out of power. My choice highlights what's wrong with our country today.

Republican Party:
-Economic Freedom
-Social Regulation

Democratic Party:
-Economic Regulation
-Social Freedom

At the moment, I think Republicans present a greater threat to my social freedom than Democrats do to my economic freedom. But really, why can't we have a relevant party that promotes both types of freedom?

17 (edited by V. Kemp 23-Aug-2012 00:48:31)

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The Libertarian party isn't just too scary to pansies who hate freedom, it's relatively poorly managed and marketed as well! (their Facebook page makes me sad)

Not expanding social freedoms can be corrected in the near future. Laying waste to our economy with massive deficits and production-stifling industrial engineering (intentionally spiking the price of fossil fuels in order to impoverish Amerika) will reverberate in the standards of living of Amerikans for decades.

This is in addition to the fact that Obama is against social freedoms. He support's Bush's unconstitutional spying and imprisonment policies. He has no intention of legalizing any drugs or prostitution. He has no intention of removing the federal government from marriage but rather supports expanding it.

How you can mistake Obama for a supporter of social freedoms is beyond me.

That said, I'm not voting for either. You're all a bunch of ignorant hypocrites. tongue

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LIbertarians always have a tin foil cap and a phone number to a lawyer who specializes in marijuana busts.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Yeah there's no sense in wanting the Fed to stop stealing our earnings. Or wanting government to stop policing what we put in our own bodies. Or wanting government to stop policing what we do with our own bodies.

Wanting the freedom to keep your earnings and do what you want with your own life is RADICAL.

I have my disagreements with the Libertarian party, but pretending they're somehow radical whereas Republicans are not is ridiculous. Republicans are [nearly] as corrupt as democrats. They love big government, and the corporate handouts and bribes it brings, as much as anyone else. They're as against personal freedoms as Democrats, they just have different areas of focus.

By passing power back and forth, they convince sheep that there's a balance of power whereas, in reality, both are eroding our freedoms in different areas. Neither repeals the unconstitutional overreaches of the other.

The media won't turn on Obama: They're happy they hardly have to claim to be objective anymore. There's almost where they want to be: An unchecked statist federal government dictating whatever it pleases. Because, academically, it's obvious that only a government with unlimited power can make everything right! Limited government just can't make anything perfect.

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"Right wing" people have just the same reasons to be 'united' behind Romney as the "left wing" people have to be behind Obama. Communists will not be behind Obama as he is not communist in any way shape and form. He may have some policies that look that way but he is still for a capitalist state so they will vote the communist candidate, albeit in little numbers to count. Green socialists likewise will vote Green party, and be as ineffectual, but will not be 'united' behind Obama because he does not believe in the 'green economy' like they do, once more lip service is given to snare some of the more mainstream 'greenies' or 'commies' but they are not united.

It is likely that none of this will make sense to you, but hey that is not my fault now is it...

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To bad you_fool won't be able to reply for a while.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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23 (edited by V. Kemp 23-Aug-2012 04:32:42)

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You_Fool,

Obama's not for a capitalist state, he just claims to be as much for one as it takes for him to get elected. Most communists do not ignorantly presume, as you do, that his aspirations aren't far more socialist/communist. He's openly admitted that his position is far more "left" than he's recently voiced: In the past, he has openly advocated fully socialized medicine, increased redistribution of wealth, and far, far more government involvement in all kinds of private industries.

You do understand that Obama is not an autocrat, right? You do understand that he has to posture to get his policies passed by people far less socialist/communist than him, right? You do understand, as Obama does, that such socialist/communist changes must be enacted in steps, right? It appears that you have no understanding of the restraints Obama puts on his rhetoric in order to appeal to moderates. He's given countless speeches arguing for a more "green" economy (which you just denied he supports much of), but he doesn't go overboard because more attention to this politically sensitive issue will lose votes.

It's a matter of movement in that direction. He's gotten legislation passed moving us in that direction while in office, and he was far more openly vocal about his socialist/communist ideology before he sought national office. Most communists are aware of this and give him their support.

This is in stark contrast with most Libertarian (America's 3rd largest political party)-leaning voters, who are aware of Romney's many substantive disagreements with their ideals and policy positions:

While Obama is not socialist in name, he clearly wants to move the country in that direction (which all socialists know is how to get the country where they want it).

Romney not only isn't Libertarian in name, but is substantively opposed to Libertarian positions on a great number of issues. Romney clearly wants to move the country farther away from the direction Libertarian voters desire.

Pretending that socialist voters are as fractured from Obama as Libertarian voters are from Romney is just ignorant of Amerikan politiks. There's no parallel. These different groups have fundamentally different disagreements with the major-party candidate who is closer to their ideology. Romney's not very close to Libertarian ideology at all.



Einstein,

You_Fool is a troll. This is the first time I've been happy with our mods for a while. tongue I knew that Zarf guy was alright! And maybe those other one or two whose names I do not recall!

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I hate that Zarf guy, personally!  They should definitely demod him so he can sleep more!

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