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Obama is scared.


He has had more fundraisers than the previous three Presidents before combined! He is also getting squat per fundraising effort.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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The Ryan plan got already a strong hit from Grover Norquist (leader of 'Americans for tax reform'). Better duck and cover Romney&Ryan, the grey eminence of Washington is not pleased:

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/08/13/grover_norquist_ryan_romney_wrong_on_defense_budgets

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What a shithead, we have no unnecessary bases left. In fact we have too few bases, because if we tried to duplicate the military effort of WW2 we'd have to build new ones.

But notice the declaration up front is, we're not going to have to fight an industrial power.  In fact we don't have to fight in Afghanistan either...when you decide up front that goatherders can bomb on New York and get away with it, sure, we can use a much smaller military.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Ryan's plan is bad because

1) it guarantees federal responsibility for everybody's standard of living
2) it lowballs the defined benefit you get.

If everybody admits the feds owe me a living, why should I settle for $20,000 a year in vouchers? Couldn't I live better with $25k? What's the moral basis to deny it to me?  If I'm cool getting a $20k handout for breathing won't I vote for the guy promising $25k?  Especially when he lies and says somebody else can pay higher taxes.

3) it assumes 3% economic growth and that ain't happening for some time, and
4) it still takes til 2040 to balance the budget.  We won't be allowed that long.  remember we're still on the hook to prop  up Wall Street every time it takes itself out.

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

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Chris went straight to the bottle, he never got the teet and never had to be weaned off...

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
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31 (edited by East 15-Aug-2012 10:39:21)

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I challenge either of the campaigns to take "we're on a road to nowhere" as their theme song for rallies

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The Yell: "remember we're still on the hook to prop  up Wall Street every time it takes itself out."

Exactly. The government is like a lone iron man attempting to hold up the walls of a failing three-story house at the epicenter of a violent earthquake. I've not heard a single mainstream candidate argue that a policy of tax increases and bailouts are detrimental to the economic rejuvenation we all desperately seek.

As a professional in the (heavily unionized) airline industry for roughly 15 years (not counting military service), I can't tell you enough how subsidization does NOT work. Heck, any frequent flyer can tell you that just on the basis of their TSA encounters.

Caution Wake Turbulence

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While socialists/communists/progressives deny every word you say.

Doesn't medicare already guarantee benefits, The Yell? =/ Hasn't the terrible scenario of decline you outline been happening for decades already?

[I wish I could obey forum rules]

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It takes guts to think 25 years' hence. 2040 represents about 30% of a lifetime and shares the burden of correcting America's economy between the current and next generation sensibly without - hopefully - damaging either too much.

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or we're all going to die and suffer horribly, could go either way really

> Mace wrote:

> It takes guts to think 25 years' hence. 2040 represents about 30% of a lifetime and shares the burden of correcting America's economy between the current and next generation sensibly without - hopefully - damaging either too much.

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