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Topic: necessity is the mother of invention

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article4133668.ece

At first i thought this wasn't real when i first heard about it.  but it turns out to be true! 
Scientists have genetically altered small single celled bugs to excrete a substance almost exactly like crude oil.  the only down side to this process is that right now it takes a fairly large container to make a barrel of oil.

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Re: necessity is the mother of invention

if they need space, we've got plenty of National Parks they could use!

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Re: necessity is the mother of invention

So how long do you think it will take for this project will be scrapped because of protests by econut hippies claiming it's "Playing God."

Pretty cool if it can be made cost effective.

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Re: necessity is the mother of invention

If I were Emperor, I would order the construction of several installations, with a sum of that needed 205 miles, to produce our needed oil. Of course then the Middle East wouldn't be so special anymore and their economy would decline, but oh well.

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Forced to look to alternative means, the world will advance despite Democrats in Congress

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> Einstein wrote:
> Forced to look to alternative means, the world will advance despite Democrats in Congress<

I thought it was the evil satanistic atheistis lefties that were all for alternative energy? Come to think of it, they are, and have been for some time.

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It's still oil.




Also another development...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jatropha_oil


Seems this cactus plant can produce in desert conditions, can produce 4 times the oil of the most promising (prior) biofuel sources, and can prevent food shortages

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Re: necessity is the mother of invention

I don't believe it. Its something different every month. The real ROEI can only be claculated after implementation. As far as I see it:
energy investment:
1.) research
2.) creating and consuming waste (yes this is a cost on this scale)
3.) transport of waste
4.) creation of oil factory and placement (the last would be a pain they admit)
5.) maintenance of the factory
6.) transport of oil
7.) diseases

-Waste is often used for agricultural purposes so its a los. Next to that, the amount of waste you need is huge, so you need to produce it on extra.
-The placements of most of that kind of experiments is a problem because of the large space it takes, and the climat it needs.
-the bug could be subject to diseases and parasites.

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