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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

Farming is a big honor problem in the game. It exists because it's easy for the top fams to feed off the bottom without slowing down eco. Right now the protection is 35%. Increase it too much, and you have to slow the game down too much to keep in range to actually fight people. Remember, it's Imperial CONFLICT not Imperial INFRAWHORE.

I would think an increase to 50% fam nw wouldn't neccessarily be out of the question?

Keep the war declared drop in fam nw protection, but move it to 35%.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

nah, its been proved (read my many threads about it during 3+ years) that the right way to do it is a test round with 40% limit (and war limit to 30%).

If the slightly 5% is not enouf then do another test with 45%, but never go directly to 50%, it will bring up the infrawhoring style and boredom for every round

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

hard to add more fams when there is not enough players...

but u are right... back in the day when there was like 40 fams in a gal, u would get killed by one fam and then be in range of the next fam... and vice versa if ur fam was climbing the tree, there was always some1 bigger or smaller than u to hit...

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

Hardcore galaxy with 3 per fam huh?

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

~Killas~ wrote:

Scenario:
#3 fam has warred and/or napped everybody in the top 8, they should not have to sit for the rest of the round because all the rest of the fams are small and it would be considered farming to hit them.

Then thats the responsibility of the leader and VLs to not fully close out on NAPs (PNAP'n everyone after 1 war would be a bad idea, and to give a chance to the lower families, then maybe the top fams might need to fight each other twice in a round.) I know there would be complications with spread etc, but then you might be able to declare war on a fam 35% of your size to gain some of that spread...

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

There were a few great ideas on how to prevent/minimize farming in the Think Tank forums. Using only the networth limit is short sighted and incomprehensive. Other ideas should be used in combination with it.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

I farmed penguins 3 times in one round.

Also fought like three other fams twice each that round.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

Would be nice if the smaller fams were aloud to band together and fight off the bigger faimlys the best they can

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

That could be an interesting spin on the IA rule.... in certain (farming) situations smaller fams could be eligible to form an IA and hurt the larger fam back.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

Would be utterly useless unless they truly knew what they were doing.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

mod approved tri alliances for small fams getting raped.

i like it.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

they did?  in that case i think the rule should be that all 3 of those fams are under 35% fam NW.  and i think the tri-alliance option should only be available if a big fam has taken over 5% of the small fam's planets.  otherwise you'll have small fams abuse that option

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

It would have to be like 20% of the small families planets, since 5% in some cases will be just clearing a single system.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

oh what a mess! you are (like always) doing it more and more complicated!  yikes

Just test the damn limit at 40% and lets see what happens

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

Here's a way to solve the problem: allow smaller fams more naps and allies than larger fams.  It could be determined by periodic calculations of a fam's NW relative to the galaxy's medium fam NW.  It could be broken down like this:

If your fam's NW is in top 10% the fam gets 0 allies and 1 nap; top 10 - 30 % 1 ally 2 naps; top 30-50% 2 allies 3 naps; 50 - 70% 4 allies and 6 naps; 70-100% unlimited allies, unlimited naps.

If a fam's NW goes up, naps / alliances are automatically broken, and funny messages could provide an explanation:

Supreme Leader, at a state dinner hosted by our family's leader one of our allies' ministers insulted us by consuming jellow through a straw through his nose! Our alliance with family 77!% has been cancelled.

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Re: Changing family networth protection rule to prevent farming

Too much instability with that xeno. So if they were in the middle of a war and this happens,  then it would immediately turn into IA.

We will probably try the 40% NW change and see how it goes. Families will just have to be more careful with the NAPs they make. Adjustments will have to be made, but remember the smaller the family the less family interaction.

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Right, so what are we waiting for?  Can we get this going?  Any other feedback?

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