Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

In germany every baby showing signs of life (heartbeat, umbilical cord pulsating...) at birth counts as lifeborn.
0.24% of babys are born dead.

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

thats sad sad

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Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

I mean it sounds sad, baby and dead are words that should never be in a sentence together...

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Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

Schniepel that is not the norm however and Germany has how many soldiers?

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Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

give me sources about what the  norm is then pls einstein.
And what please do Soldiers have to do with babys being born dead?

But well.. around 200k soldiers.

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

I now found that France, Netherlands, Czech REpublic, Poland and  Irland do not report live birthes <500g.
But really.. France, the Netherlands, Poland, Czech and Poland can not be called the norm for whole europe.

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

I thought that sounded wrong....


In most European countries the size of the baby determines if the baby is born alive or stillborn. Even in most

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So yes.... Germany fibs as well

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Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

lol

the definition in germany is "If a child is under 500 grams AND shows no signs of life (heartbeat, bloos circulation) it is reported stillborn.
A kicking screaming child will not be declared dead.. no matter if under 500 grams or not. If it shows signs of life it is not stillborn.

Same goes for Austria btw.

What do you do with children below 500 grams with no heartbeat and no blood circulation?

Articles starting with: DONT BELIEVE THE PROPAGANDA usually are nothing then propaganda themselves btw.

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

Read them all... I did.

The P.H.D. report is very damning evidence.

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http://www.initiative-regenbogen.de/index.htm?http://www.initiative-regenbogen.de/gesetze.htm


Here's evidence in German for you. Have fun....

And Flint wins in Overtime!

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Haha flint scores own goal sad

The link he posted himself says:

miscarriage

As a miscarriage is called stillborn babies under 500 grams (Stillborn meaning no sign of life)

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Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

Your evidence in germany is totally far off..

As noir pointed out allready the article is saying that a stillborn below 500g is called a misscarriage instead of a stillborn.
A stillborn is a baby with no sign of life (heartbeat.. blood circulation)

Also this article is about if you can get motherprotection holidays for stillborns and if it has to be burried and such.. I dont really see how that is of any relevance.

About your article from the phd... He is doing the same mistake.. he says that in switzerland the child had to be a certain size.. but lets away "and shows no signs of life".
Also he starts his article with that dont believe the propaganda bla which totally indicates he is all biased.

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

Schniepel NEVER quote Noir, your last comment is fully ignored. Quoting him means no reading if I can avoid it, no replys ever.

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40 (edited by Schniepel 21-Jun-2012 13:45:19)

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

I did not quote noir. i only pointed out that what he said was right.. the german article you posted totally shows you did not understand what it was about.
You should not be that arrogant to think you can enducate me in my mothertongue.

And also.. I can quote whoever i wish to quote.
If you have to play your childish I ignore X and Y thats fine but dont try to make others be that foolish too pls.

But i understand that ignoring Noir is a nice excuse for not having to admit you messed up your argument.

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Saying he is right requires me to read his words

WILL NEVER HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT, FORGET IT, MENTION HIS NAME AND I STOP READING AND PUT UP A MENTAL BARRIER TO BLOCK THE WORDS I READ OUT.

If the caps don't help signify the severity then nothing will.

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Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

> Einstein wrote:

> Schniepel NEVER quote Noir, your last comment is fully ignored. Quoting him means no reading if I can avoid it, no replys ever.


LOL fail.. u mentioned my name tihi tongue... this guys seems very mentally stable.. he should definately be in office.

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43 (edited by RisingDown 21-Jun-2012 17:21:00)

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

He wasn't quoting, he was paraphrasing.

Still, the fact that this article was written by someone with a phd does not necessarily mean it is of  a high quality. Where did this man do his promotion/where did he study? Was this article published in a peer reviewed magazine or simply posted on this website? I am not familiar with www.nationalcenter.org so I can't say anything about whether it is a trustable website. If it was published in a peer reviewed magazine, what magazine was that and how many times was the article quoted?

I doubt this article was of very good quality. As others have mentioned, the title of the article makes it seem like this is a populous, reactive article, biased, poorly researched and poorly written: not conform with the rules regarding scientific papers. [EDIT: Before there was some criticism on Table 2 here, regarding references, but I  looked closer and found his source, although not explicitely stated under the table with publication date and etc which is important to include with tables and such]

To summarize: the fact it was written by someone with a phd does not necessarily mean anything!

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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I love how half of the people posting here don't understand the statistical significance of miscarriage vs stillborn which is relevant. big_smile

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Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

It

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

apparently with the Liverpool Care Protocol, the Brits are cracking that disgraceful life-expectancy gap from a whole new direction

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Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: 83% of American doctors considering quitting..........

"To my knowledge, no one has attempted to segregate U.S. life-expectancy figures by insurance status. But based on the data we have, it

Maar doodslaan deed hij niet, want tussen droom en daad,
Staan wetten in de weg en praktische bezwaren,
En ook weemoedigheid, die niemand kan verklaren,
En die des avonds komt, wanneer men slapen gaat.

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http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/21/worlds-first-of-its-kind-surgery-saves-miami-girls-life/


Only in America

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