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Re: The extreme Left versus the extreme Right (Bottom)

Let me phrase a statement


It will crush the people, drain their pockets, reduce their quality of life. It will grow without restrain, seek more control over our lives, and control prices to its advantage. It has no morals, no ethics, and no limits. Unchecked it is the greatest danger to our lives



To Xeno that represent big business

To Kemp that represents Government.



They would starve it of funds, cut it down until the last person involved was unemployed, they would burn it if they could get away with it. They even won't cry if the people involved are killed for they are the willing slaves of evil. A few hundred, thousand, tens of thousands of deaths would promote the cause after all.



Others of us do not see it at these extremes. There is a reason for Govenment and nothing can replace businesses. As a Conservative I feel much of the American Government, and indeed most European nations, is to large and should be pared down significantly.

I also feel there should be some regulations and rules against certain activities. My favorite quote for regulations is I do not want a semi-truck filled with explosives going through a neighborhood with a driver who has been awake for 20 hours. Some regulations are good.


However when you look at either extreme they are unwilling to listen to arguments that defeat their ideas. They are unwilling to communicate in full and result to behavior seen as 'trolling' to try to force their views on others.

However we can see in the polls how effective their 'efforts' are. Neither is an effective party, each has a few people they can point at who get nothing done. The few times they get someone up high the effect is usually a running away from that principle as fast as society can.

The best either can do is hire use spaceship salesmen. Humanity deserves better than what either of them propose, and humanity (excepting China, Russia, and some minor nations on one hand, and avoiding a repeat of allowing conquests by others in the name of peace for the other hand) has learned to avoid these ideals.

Educate yourself and others on these extremist viewpoints.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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Re: The extreme Left versus the extreme Right (Bottom)

Your obsessions with Kemp and Xeno are unhealthy.

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Not obsessing... Punishing one and mocking the other.

It's a fun game til they both accept hearing flaws in their dreams and such.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
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How are you going to show me flaws in my reasoning when you refuse to comment on it?

"To Kemp that represents Government."

I'm in the company of America's founders. You're not. They never imagined the behemoth government you support.

"They even won't cry if the people involved are killed for they are the willing slaves of evil."

Stupid straw man argument because you're a coward who won't debate their actual views. Government is a necessary evil. The uber police nanny state you support is not necessary nor beneficial nor moral.

"Others of us do not see it at these extremes."

Not everyone thinks freedom and the law are extreme.

"However when you look at either extreme they are unwilling to listen to arguments that defeat their ideas. They are unwilling to communicate in full and result to behavior seen as 'trolling' to try to force their views on others."

Says the baby who won't even respond to arguments made against his positions. Says the baby who responds with fallacious reasoning a middle schooler could identify misses the point.

That has to be the dumbest, most hypocritical thing you've ever said.

"However we can see in the polls how effective their 'efforts' are. Neither is an effective party, each has a few people they can point at who get nothing done."

Appeal to majority.

"The few times they get someone up high the effect is usually a running away from that principle as fast as society can."

Examples? Gary Johnson is cool. Ron Paul's alright.

"Humanity deserves better than what either of them propose, and humanity... has learned to avoid these ideals."

Ignorant appeal to majority. As if our oppressive government got 16 trillion into debt, even overtaxing us, because the Amerikan people are so wise and virtuous.

"Educate yourself and others on these extremist viewpoints."

OMFG FREEDOM IS SCARY! OMG THE LAW CANNOT/SHOULD NOT BE FOLLOWED! CALL THEM EXTREME!

You're name calling because you can't back up your calls for a nanny/police state with justification. You're name calling because you know nothing of the world and/or don't care about anyone's life but your own, so you don't object to corporate war-mongering. Hey, you're unfit to serve. They won't get you killed.

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_*I*_ am the extreme Right

get the hell offn my property

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Re: The extreme Left versus the extreme Right (Bottom)

That's extreme right? Maybe I am a little extreme after all. It's not like property rights are in the Constitution and they're our law.

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