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Russian parliament votes for heavier punishment of protesters. Anyone still doubts the new tzar/chairman? Prepare for jail.
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Russian parliament votes for heavier punishment of protesters. Anyone still doubts the new tzar/chairman? Prepare for jail.
There's a reason the same people are in charge that held power during the Soviet days. The people didn't take any power from them.
Well, that kind of had to do with The People not wanting to get shot.
v.kemp +1
@biefstuk
...and indoctrination ofc.
The same people are not in power. Putin put most of them in jail, and placed his buddies in power. While they were part of the communist political power structure, most of them were never part of the politburo.
And I support this move. Putin in power means stability, which is a good thing for the United States. He's also a pragmatist and an admitted realist, which makes him easy to deal with. The world leaders who are filled with ideals are the ones we should be worried about.
Tyranny breeds wars, which means more economic power lost to military, more lives lost, less trade, and other direct and indirect harm Justinian.
Flint,
Putin is more interested in maintaining the balance of power. It's the US and its allies who have been aggressive. For example, that missile shield exists only to disrupt the balance of power in Eastern Europe at Russia's expense.
@justinian:
Its a war. Logically when you face an opponent so big thats not to be trusted. It would be unwise of the US not to exploit their tech supremacy.
"The world leaders who are filled with ideals are the ones we should be worried about."
Then how do you become one, seriously? They use ideals as propaganda and serve their own goal whatever that is. Don't mix things up.
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Justinian I presents a false dichotomy. Pretending there's distinct ideologues and pragmatists is just silly. Sure some are actually ideologically motivated to X extent, but they all present as ideological of faces as is pragmatic.
Freedom is inherently good, as it means stability. Oppression naturally motivates people to rebel. This means instability. Think this one through, Justinian I, you have not!
LP,
Putin has been pretty reliable and peaceful. It's the US that has been doing the backstabbing and aggression.
Putin justifies his power with a kind of social contract. He portrays himself as being strong and able to deliver results. The problem is that his government is actually weak and his masculine propaganda is an obvious joke.
V.Kemp,
Oppression is easily maintained, and has been the reality for most of humanity throughout history. So I don't see how it will necessarily cause instability, nor do I see how it will cause any wars. Putin's foreign policy has been rather peaceful.
I can certainly agree to a point. It's certainly more stable than democratic governments in SOME parts of the world, not to mention any regions!
But it's inherently unstable in others. ![]()
By the way:
LP,
Pakistan is an example of a country driven by ideology. I'm dead serious, their foreign policy can be described as "Keeping those Hindus out of Afghanistan, and maintaining an arms race with India to prevent those Hindus from killing us." They take our foreign aid and build nukes with it. LOL.
See the danger?
Kemp,
I think stability has more to do with the dictator's ability to buy loyalty. In countries rich in natural resources, dictators can easily buy the loyalty of relevant power players. But in countries like Afghanistan, it's difficult for a single individual to maintain a monopoly of political power.
My opinion is that the only thing politicians care about is political survival. Democracy differs from other governments because it has a large ruling coalition and selectorate. Since democratic governments are accountable for around 20% of the population, they tend to favor the rule of law, due process, freedom of association, relaxed business restrictions, and leaders can't get away with as much. When leaders go too far, members of the ruling coalition will defect because of too many anxious parties.
This state of affairs evolves from free markets. Free markets broadly distribute resources, which also broadly distributes power. This is why Western democracies differ from "forced" illiberal democracies, because forcing systemic change does nothing to change the distribution of resources, which favor an authoritarian political system.
"Putin has been pretty reliable and peaceful."
His regime has been pretty unstable so far with sometimes hard oppression, sometimes a little more freedom. Peaceful is a pov.
"It's the US that has been doing the backstabbing and aggression."
Actually, I don't understand the soft stance of US on Russia, especially during the age the energy prices where low. The EU is held hostage by Russia's energy supply so I'm not even starting about the Eu. Which reminds me what a failure Putin is not to exploit that more. It is a prove of how weak his power base actually is.
"Putin justifies his power with a kind of social contract. He portrays himself as being strong and able to deliver results. The problem is that his government is actually weak and his masculine propaganda is an obvious joke."
That counts for 9 out of ten of those kind of regimes. If you would exclude the less intelligence people from vote, this would never happen.
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