I don't suggest taxing soda additionally. I merely say that its not irreconcilable to tax soda. And I don't advocate taxing unhealthy things to pay for healthcare.

Ad hominem attacks are generally what's wrong with this board. I don't troll and whether I am a moron or not has no consequence to the fact. Defend your position or don't. In principle I probably agree with you - but you cannot base an argument on man-made premises without drawing it to a logical conclusion. Therefore the constitution doesn't make something irrefutably wrong or right.

Let me tell you about a taxation model the American founders would have found familiar. Government raises its income from taxes on luxury items, there's no income taxes, and most public services are public in the truest sense - paid for by the public who wishes to use them. That was the UK - a nation whose principles were dented by wars.

Of course soda would not logically fall within the luxury bracket - since it is cheap and universally enjoyed. But it wouldn't be indefensible to tax branded soda.

The Yell. OK if you're thirsty and having headaches then maybe you left it too late. But there's lots of signs you can use. My argument was against Flint saying he 'needs' a large soda to get through a film. Not that there's no circumstances people may need to consume a lot of water - in some form.

The 9th Amendment sounds interesting. But again I doubt there's a right to photon torpedoes or soda implied, as the absence of either doesn't deny general liberty. As I understand it, no part of the US constitution can be expunged and you have to live with the flaws for eternity?

Mace,

Your post completely missed the points of the thread. It was either stupid or trolling. I don't know which is more offensive to which people, so I generally try to give the benefit of the doubt to intelligence and call people trolls. I am aware that this is usually incorrect. As I have already explained, nobody was talking about government "advising" anything. What you said about that made no sense. Nobody was talking about "buy[ing] into" government nombers. What you said about that made no sense. You demonstrated that you have no understanding of what this simple topic is about. Thus I called you a troll.

The Mayor of NYC is proposing that soda of 24oz size be banned from sale in the city. He's not advising anything. We're not discussing "buying into" government suggestions. It's not a complicated topic. If it's too complicated for you to grasp, yeah, I'm going to presume you're trolling.

Americans don't have the right to "general liberty," they have a right to liberty. This includes photon torpedoes. We may accept some regulations regarding the safe store and transport of said photon torpedoes as reasonable and beneficial to the public good, but damn you if you try to infringe on our right to own and operate photon torpedoes.

All the fuss about health care in the discussions, but nobody wants even simple adjustments. Restrictions as those in NY will cost the common worker less in the long run.

> Why charge people extra for soda because SOME people are fat, Simon?

I can see how you think I meant that, but all I'm really saying is why fountain soda dollar per fl oz isn't constant for the different sized cups, like frozen yogurt stores.

> Simon wrote:

> > Why charge people extra for soda because SOME people are fat, Simon?

I can see how you think I meant that, but all I'm really saying is why fountain soda dollar per fl oz isn't constant for the different sized cups, like frozen yogurt stores.<

Once (ONCE) I bought a super soda from Jack in the Box on a hot day and drained all the soda out before I got back to the office.  I got a 12 oz can of soda from the office fridge and poured it onto the ice in the cup.

It filled it.

Soda vendors buy proprietary syrup from Pepsico or Coke.  Then they blend it to their ratio of soda water of their choice, and offer you lots of ice.  They haf vays of making up the cost of the soda before it gets to you.  You're gonna pay $x for a soda-sale, so, they can make nickels out fo that by serving you less soda, weaker soda, and icier soda.

Fro Yo, it's just fro yo.  It has to be left alone.  You serve yourself and lets face it you don't take a knife and level off the cup when you do that.  If they could cut the fro yo with milk and put it on ice for you, yeah it'd be priced like a soda

Their are laws against the governments control on commerce.  As a citizen I am allowed to purchase any legal substance I wish and purchase it in any quantity I wish.  The government is overstepping its power by telling businesses what quanties they can and cannot sell. 

Although I think this ban is unlawful, I think the citizens from NY need to fix this problem... their mayor has just come up and said that every one in NY is too stupid to know how to drink properly and its only through government control you morons will be able to live.  Is there any reason this guy is still in office?

Two other notes.  Some people are saying this ban is too keep people healthy - this is wrong.  They are not banning how much you can buy, they are banning buying in bulk.  Two 12oz pops costs about 50% more than 1 24oz pop.  This is another way to collect more taxes without raising taxes. 

Secondly... Flint or any IC player at a theater with a girl... LOL!   Like that would ever happen

You actually touched on a great idea Mace.  I think I would agree with Bloomburg if he put a ban on bulk/super-sized hookers

> Einstein wrote:

If I am taking a girl to see a three hour movie I want to be able to buy her and me a very large drink and carry those two with me to the seats ONE TIME. If I am at a major game like the Super Bowl I want to have a large drink. When it is 100 degrees out I don't care what the drink is so long as it is cold and big.

Einstein and taking a girl to a movie, has anybody actually read this statement other than Beowolfe, is that even possible...would a female even go to a dark theartre with him ????

On a side note, would have to agree cutting down the size(banning) wouldn't help the problem at all. Education is the only real answer, But only those that use their brain will get the msg.

The Yell,

25 grams of marijuana is insufficient to conceal a 32 ounce beverage.

OR SO I'VE HEARD.

*****

I agree with you all. Ban plus-sized hookers. And I think we're all trying to be nice and not share the fact that we laugh out loud every time someone in this thread mention's Einstein's obvious inability to even take a woman on a date.

He can't even find a hooker to PAY for it! OH SNAP!

Chris you were supposed to be rich by now... you make me sad.

Riveting discussion. I'm staying tuned. Let's talk about the profit margin implications of free straws next.