1 (edited by Little Paul 02-Jun-2012 13:06:48)

Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

According to the new york times Obama was responsible for Stuxnet by increasing its funds and allowing more attacks.

First time in the history of his presidency I have to admit at last he has done something right. I still believe it will cost the US centuries to produce another failure like Obama and it might even involve genetic manipulation. But for once, he has done well.(if this info is correct that is)

Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

The funding required is relatively minor. It was a no-brainer--even more so because he's inept and has 0 other options--so of course he rolled with it.

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Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

A single news group is running this idea based off an 'anonymous statement' by 'an Obama official'.

Since it would be classified the Government will not confirm nor deny.


Aka the newspaper is helping Obama by making a story up. Obama would not do this, we all know it.

Israel clearly is the source as they are doing assassinations, bombings, and other activities against the Iranians

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Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

American govt computers made something accurate??!! Yeah right

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

5 (edited by Zarf BeebleBrix 03-Jun-2012 02:33:14)

Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

Well, hold on here.  We do know from budgets released before Stuxnet that Obama significantly increased funding of cybersecurity initiatives.  Additionally, unlike a full military offensive, Stuxnet is both something that gives the user deniability and invokes damage upon specific infrastructure without causing significant collateral damage or loss of life.  Maybe it's just me, but if you want to start this analysis with the preconception that Obama is generally afraid of instigating conflict (a stance which I would be willing to dispute, but that's a side issue), this seems like exactly the type of action he would authorize and speed up.

That being said, this is by no means an Obama-only party.  If the New York Times is correct, Stuxnet would have been a product of Bush Administration creativity, not Obama Administration creativity, in actually constructing the plot, establishing the plan/goals, and constructing the organization which would take on the task.  Given the report we have, literally the only thing that we can pat Obama on the back for doing is saying "Wow... that's awesome!  You should get more money for that!"  EDIT: I should add that Obama would get credit for actually ordering the attack... which is something, granted, but regardless, the point is that this may not have even been an option for Obama had it not been for the Bush-era planning/development phase.


The only other note I want to throw out here... Stuxnet is only the first of what my count says is 4 separate viruses based on loosely similar code (Stuxnet, Duqu, Stars, and Flame).  What kind of crappy freeware firewall programs are they using?  X(

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Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

You seem confused, Zarf BeebleBrix. For Obama, cyber security is hacking his opponents and tracking their internet activity with the help of the quasi-government company Google. tongue Of course he wants more of this.

It Israel was responsible, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

> V.Kemp wrote:

> You seem confused, Zarf BeebleBrix. For Obama, cyber security is hacking his opponents and tracking their internet activity with the help of the quasi-government company Google. tongue Of course he wants more of this.



That is... entirely tautological (supporting your conclusion by providing the evidence of your conclusion).

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No it's not.

I didn't provide any evidence. tongue

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Oh, that suddenly makes your stance legitimate.  Nevermind!  big_smile

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Re: Obama responsible for Stuxnet

I'm just saying it's a no-brainer for him to up cubersecurity/hacking. In the worst event, he'll just deny it. In the best event, it'll get something done. Considering that he's too much of an amateur to get anything done by any other means, it's pure win for him to support it and up it.

That said, Israel probably did it. But he's still a dirty piece of shit. smile

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