26 (edited by xeno syndicated 04-May-2012 04:49:02)

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

Zarf, actually, I didn't notice the post in question, as it was the last post on page 3, and Simon and I were discussing something into page 4, which, after replying to his posts, made me lose track of your post on page 3.

I thus apologize for not replying yet.  I will  soon.

Regarding the issue you raise of debate.  Let me clarify.  I am not looking for debate simply for the purpose debate, but, rather, for the purposes of coming to a better understanding.  In other words, I am interested in debates with purpose, or truth-seeking or problem-solving discussions.  A discussion which analyzes possible solutions to problems in a non-partisan manner.

Einstein is clearly partisan, with a purely Republican agenda and will disregard anything of value from other perspectives.  Same with Kemp.  Having problem-solving discussions with them is pointless, as I seek to incorporate into solutions anything that will add value to the solution, regardless of what perspective it comes from.

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

Here's a question for you: Why is there no value in argumentation with someone who will not accept your idea?  Doesn't that just mean the other person has considered your perspective earlier, and rejected it?  Moreover, does that make their argument less true whether it's written by them or by, say, Wornstrum?

And for the record, I do raise a couple other character issues unaddressed.  Specifically:
1: The answering of some, yet not all, arguments within posts, which is actively a choice not to argue against some issues, clearly indicating a willingness to dismiss arguments.  That's a unique problem because, unlike the scenario of entirely missing a post (what happened with the tax post, and which is a legitimate explanation), addressing a small portion of claims in a post you're replying to anyway is an active choice to ignore arguments.  That's one of the more serious charges I present in my prior post.

2: How do you explain the Greece thread, then?  You VERY clearly dismissed posts of mine simply because I refused to address the issue from the perspective you wanted.  So either I'm part of the classification of people who will disregard anything of value, at which point you probably shouldn't give a crap about trying to defend yourself anyway, or there's an inconsistency here.

3: There's also the inflation thread, another instance in which I was observing your willingness to respond.  That thread's been sitting around with my replies, waiting for a response for about the same time as the corporate tax thread as well.

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Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

Ignore! Ignore! Ignore!

[I wish I could obey forum rules]

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

Xeno that's bullcrap.

You cannot defend your posts. PERIOD!

You have no room to stand on, you then ignore, lie, or otherwise evade.

You either are a troll as Kemp accuses, or are trying to avoid arguments you cannot win for fear it might force you to see the world differently.


Come wear my glasses and see it my way.



I am not partisan, I am correct!

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

Clearly, Zarf doesn't believe in second chances.

He believes in infinite chances.

Brother Simon, Keeper of Ages, Defender of Faith.
~ ☭ Fokker

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

Why is noone pointing at Flint in all of this aswell? He is the biggest evader and ignorant poster on this forum by far.. Guess its a matter of comeradery.

Regardless, can we make a decent 2012 election prediction/debate thread

LORD HELP OREGON

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

lol Simon.

And yes, Noir. He's not as bat-shit crazy with alien/robot conspiracy theories, but Einstein similarly completely ignores arguments against him.

I shall ignore you both! Bloody wankers.

[I wish I could obey forum rules]

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

> Simon wrote:

> Clearly, Zarf doesn't believe in second chances.

He believes in infinite chances.



I won't deny this.  Admittedly, it's difficult for me to draw the line on when to actually initiate protests such as the above.  At the very least, I like exercising a judicial approach: Ensure I have enough evidence to make the case that someone is violating a code of conduct, then present the case with the understanding that I represent only one side of the story, and thus the other side should at least have a chance to respond.  From there, I have to recognize that even with my case laid out, it's possible that I could misinterpret a situation, perhaps due to bias on my own part.  Yes, in the process, I probably give someone much more leniency than should be given, but the short answer is that I'd rather screw myself over and be absolutely sure I'm justified than jump the gun and be attacked for misrepresenting somebody.

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34 (edited by The Yell 04-May-2012 22:27:33)

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

this is the biggest foulup since the Commission blew the HUD windows contract for the 5 bouroughs

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

35 (edited by The Yell 04-May-2012 22:30:10)

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/05/31/nyregion/suspected-new-york-mob-leaders-are-indicted-in-contract-rigging.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

every window in NYC public housing.  ALL OF THEM

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

all you had to do was pretend to be a think tank for Mitt Romney so we got paid....

The core joke of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is that of course no civilization would develop personal computers with instant remote database recovery, and then waste this technology to find good drinks.
Steve Jobs has ruined this joke.

Re: Is IC Politics forum a front for a secret Republican Think Tank?

Jesus christ zarf.... How long has xeno been pissing you off for? tongue

- HUMI FOR MOD!!!

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> Humidity wrote:

> Jesus christ zarf.... How long has xeno been pissing you off for? tongue

Years, lol.

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Humidity back when they were in Pre-School Xeno had painted half of his face purple. Zarf said "wow your ugly"

Xeno replued "I know you are now what am I!"

Zarf then said "that was not the topic, nor did you present evidence, how can you debate without evidence. You painted yourself in an ugly manner, that is the topic!"

Xeno said "I know you are but what am I"




That was the start of a tragic relationship where Zarf never gets a real answer and Xeno never gives a real answer.

Everything bad in the economy is now Obama's fault. Every job lost, all the debt, all the lost retirement funds. All Obama. Are you happy now? We all get to blame Obama!
Kemp currently not being responded to until he makes CONCISE posts.
Avogardo and Noir ignored by me for life so people know why I do not respond to them. (Informational)