"well ripper im not putting down any fam either, just one leader who thinks everyone is inferior to him. well, i guess he has now learned 1st hand how good kagar is so we will see if he gives him props that he wudnt b4 or make excuses as to why kagar pwnt him and his fam."
nope, still dont think kagar is all that, just a clever opportunist.

"Props to 60 and Gondor they did MUCH better than 62 in the war."
it amuses me how you like to shout at me for talking about things when apparently i dont know all the facts, and then you keep pulling out whoppers like that. im not critising my allies, but they had it easy frankly, only a quarter of the attacks on them that we had on us, and only 1/2 of 49 to fight against while we had the other half and all of 59. someone(i think it was trans) even said that above.

"Is it just possible that 756 decided to have enuf fleet to secure our large area that we control "KNOWING" that we would have time to catch 59/49 and 60/62 because we knew they were gonna war at some point  and then we wud not only catch up but also have good size fleets (as noir has already acknowledged)?

can FA get any credit for that strat?"

winning by default is not a good strategy.
and i still dont think you'll even manage that.

as for your 'kicking my arse' earlier in the round, i let you do that. i knew the real threat to my fam was 59/49 and we werent gna be able to fight them unless we kept up with them in eco. so when at any moment of you hitting my portals, i could have jumped double FA's fleet, i didn't, and instead spent it on infra to fight 49/59.

I can believe that. Jez isn't one to lie down and take it from a bunch of turds unless theres a good reason :-p

for crying out loud...the top 2 alliances have been there all round long standing tall and strong. A great job by them!

however, for my fam to have come from almost the very bottom and having been able to push away anybody that came near (yes i agree Arch you probably could have jumped to fight back but you didnt and you lost to 59/49 anyways) we have done great.

now...i dont sit here and like my round overall it was rather boring for me...but i just do as i need to.

and for the record...if i wanted 1st in size i would get it! but we wont

because tl we both kept each other out of sharing but kagar and i and fa had several nap talks.

tbh one reason was since 59/49 nap 60/62 tht meant they were  gonna fight and as long as 59/49 and 64/56 left each other alone the real looser was gonna be 62/60 and the other 2 big allies wud gain period.

if 59/49 and 56/64 had went at it then 60/62 wud  have benifited thus we decided not to nap 59/49 and leave them alone long as they left us alone and eventually we wud gain by 62/60 losing which i knew they wud.

its all part of strat depending on wat other  fams do.

and my vote for biggest mistake of round was 60/62 nap 59/49 and imo they both nap'd so they wudnt ruin each other early and so when 60 put their little guy in 59/49 core that was bad move cause it caused the nap anyway which has since led to defeat.

If u weren't in that fam other things might have happened WS if the same Would have happened, I still would say what im saying now.

And stop nagging about 18 to 1. it was the first week ffs, that doesn't mean shit.

ITS ON NOW! its on!

@smartz

I don't really read Jez's stuff, but from what i've skimmed it usually sounds pretty logical to me.  Though I don't always agree with his extensive use of cursage and masking in the forums .

since u implied u agree with  wat arch says then yes in that way u have agreed with him that not only our fam wasnt good but im no good since arch believes both.

it's creepy when Smartz says "hun"
~shivers~

well did u read where u said wat part u do read u agree and he  says enuf bout my fam and i  tht i knw u have read sum of itr so my point is valid unless u dnt mean exactly wat u say.