there are issues raised tho that need discussing

Been a while since I've been here... But the game still has my interest..... If people misbehave I see no problem in banning them. But I think there must be room for them to defend their behaviour. So there is no way you can delete an empire within a few hours after the player misbehaved.

> [TI] Primo wrote:

> it shouldnt be a problem, but for some reason in this case the regular procedings were ignored, i dont know why.

A real thing I have a problem with is that if a player misbehaves he gets banned and if a Mod, a players that have to be a good example for other players, don't follow the regular procedures the just can continue. I think rules for being mod should be way stricter. If a Mod doesn't follow the rules de-mod them!!

Also the idea of not more then 1 mod in a fam is a real good idea I think.... And I think that wouldn't be that hard to make that work.... Just give all fams 1 spot that can be taken by a mod rest of the spots for regular players.

It might be that players misbehave makes people leave the game, but Mod-abuse does it even more. Players that are playing this game for ages really get sick of these kind of issues and if they leave there will be no players to teach new players how to play and there will be even more players leaving!

More -=Retired=- then the other bitches

i am not 'crying' what i AM doing is pointing out some areas that need a serious look at. and frankly i dont see how it can be denied. whats done is done as far as H4e is concerned and nothing anyone says will reverse it, but those that have doubts about some of the issues raised have every right to ask the questions

and just an aside - the mods have allegedly had many complaints about H4es behaviour and we've all heard about this several times, so here's something that isn't a complaint. in the time i have known H4e he has been nothing but helpful and respectful to me and not just in ic either.

Maybe a way better idea. If a mod joins a galaxy take away his mod features for that galaxy!!! There are always different interests involved if you're playing.

More -=Retired=- then the other bitches

The more mods reveal about evidence and the way people get blocked, the easier it is to avoid the mod tools and cheat.
So that's one problem mods have.

The other is privacy, what happens between person A and person B is of no concern for person C. You could argue that if the blocked person wants it to become public, you make the discussion public. But I think evidence should remain secret.

As for the mod spots per family, or disabling mod features for galaxies the mod is in is hard to do. The interface is not account connected, so it doesn't know where someone is. Not to mention that sometimes it simply is needed to mod your own galaxy, as noone else is available or able to do it.
Creating an extra spot for mods seems overkill, and completely abundant. I don't see the problem with mods playing together, as long as they stay away from their family in the interface.

I have tried to put some perspective on this case, but if you want to see mod abuse everywhere while there isn't any, then there is no use in trying to converse.

Imho, I think slandering the mods who do their best for the community without getting any payment. That is what demoralizes people in this game. If anything the mods showed strength in blocking someone who they judged as a threat to the community with his repetitive bad behavior.

ps. I have nothing against Josh personally.

What MotherJedi and I both have a problem with is the lack of effort... If the mod's have a problem.. Like shown above it is done fast and its the #1 priority however me and MJ brought up an issue 1-2 weeks ago that was ALREADY being " looked into" which for the most part was blown off and when i pushed the issue after the fact the evidence was gone " for obvious reasons" and all the other documents we had was not enough proof. So in hinesite ... Favoritism is still huge and if a mod fam wants something done they get it done right away.. Which is why for the most part i go to Final Doom....... He don't play the game.. Has no Bias and does things in a timely manner in order of which he was received. 

NOW..... I'm not saying all the mods are like this or pointing out specific mods.
Also i don't care about hc4eva block... As you can't talk about it anyways.. I'm more concerned about how the mods go about looking into things? Is it in list of complaint's? number? how much evidence? Known of evidence "vanishing" ?

Is there a special way they " look into stuff" ??

Because as Arby3 said above the community wanted the rules to be followed and rule breakers disciplined. The players maybe should be pointed out with the amount or type of evidence needed?

Pointing to what we look for is going to make cheats cover their tracks easier.

The matter you speak of, I looked into. When 1 mod does investigation, and cannot find sufficient evidence, they get another. 2 eyes are better than 1, etc. Blocks require specific perameters to be met. If they are not reached, then it is not put into place.

> The Blackfish`` wrote:

> I have tried to put some perspective on this case, but if you want to see mod abuse everywhere while there isn't any, then there is no use in trying to converse.

Imho, I think slandering the mods who do their best for the community without getting any payment. That is what demoralizes people in this game. If anything the mods showed strength in blocking someone who they judged as a threat to the community with his repetitive bad behavior.

ps. I have nothing against Josh personally.

If that is the case then hc should have been a whike ago.. i think whaat .u fail.to.explain. is t the reasoning for hhim to get banned at this moment. Im.not asking.for details.abkout.his ban but when thr claims are he went rogue and his own fam.is defending him thren  it is worth explaining.  Obvioisly he wasnt rogue when he had 10 soilders and had the funding of the fam he clearly had his fams supportt. 

Its quite an easy out when u say unanimous decision so leave it. Then wjy was he not banned earlier why was he banmed when he was opping a fam whixch is completrly.ok in the.rule book. I think people r asking why the timing. Ur defense of the situation is very misleading and trying very hsrd in an obvious way to take attenti from one hand and  to the other. Its quite obvious otoo.   Not once in this thresd has a  mod explained why and why... contrary to what u say in the years ive playrd  when somrone whines about a block a mod comes in and says ' u had 3 accounts'... ' u cheated the market'... ' u had an ia'   yada yada and discussion over!  In this case it seems there was no crime.just u dont like who he is and im assuming all his wizzards. Really not fair. Btw im not affiliated with hc.. just dont make sense.

I am not a mod, it is not to me to explain the block/ban.

I am responding to the claims that this was an abuse of mod power and that's what the unanimous point is about. No one said that explains everything. I just wanted to make a point that the whole mod team made this decision.