Do you have sources for your claims of violence/theft? I have a friend I wish to mock but require substantiation.

It was on Hot Air, Drudge, and more.

But Libertarian websites won't post it. You have to read Conservative websites.

I wouldn't say sit on the chair. I don't think the death penalty is even on the block for a second degree murder charge.  Zimmerman was an overzealous wannabecop. If it didn't happen wit this one kid, it would have happened with someone else. That's the problem you face when people decide to take the law into their own hands.

> The Yell wrote:

> Martin's family lawyer out saying "We don't expect a conviction, we just want an arrest"
so they can sue in civil court, typically crap... wonder if theres a handbook passed down from mother to son, since fathers arent common in that demographic.

i believe Florida has a "stand your ground" law which would allow you to use deadly force (ie gun, knife other weapons) even if you are not faced with deadly force (i.e. fists)  ((of course what constitutes deadly force varies but that is typically the generic norm)) if you feel your life is in danger of death or substantial/grave harm.  If the case even passes summary judgment and makes it to a jury then I believe he won't be convicted of anything or at most maybe negligent homicide.  I don't think he will get anything however because as Kemp says there isn't much evidence that we know about which would allow the prosecution to meet their "beyond a reasonable doubt" burden of proof.

this isn't to say that the family might not be successful in a civil court for assault, batter, negligence, wrongful death etc since the burden is much less there than it is in criminal court (i.e. the OJ simpson cases)

Edit- I'm too lazy to look it up just the same as I'm too lazy to edit this post for grammar/spelling mistakes that are probably there but I thought I read a subtitle at the gym on fox news that the feds took this case up or pressed some sort of charges?  If so, i'm not really sure what the charges are because it's a state matter unless he violated some federal gun charge etc.  Does anyone not lazy or drinking beer know about this?

this is kind of reminds me of a Law and Order episode when the chick was the DA (district attorney) and she held that the death penalty would be on the table even though she strongly disagreed with the death penalty because the public demanded it.

i would be interested to know the amount of african american and hispanic legal voters in the county and when the next DA election is

Until the New Black Panthers are as ostracized as the KKK, I'm going to take it as evidence that many blacks in the USA are racists.

> V.Kemp wrote:

> The problem with that, twistedpuppet, is what there is evidence to support. When the 911 operator says he shouldn't follow the guy, he says "okay."

Wasn't his testimony that he went back to the car and Martin attacked him? He had a busted nose, the back of his head was injured, and he had grass clippings on his back.

I'm not claiming knowledge of what happened, but pointing out that any verdict should be based on the evidence. It sounds like Zimmerman is an "overzealous wannabecop," but on what evidence? And what evidence is there against his testimony in this particular case? "He sounds overzealous and probably did something wrong" doesn't amount to evidence for second degree murder.

All the articles I have read, he states he followed him. Plus, they were in a grassy, slightly wooded area when others found him standing over the kid's body. He was in his car when he called 911. He then got out of his car to follow the kid. Neighbors reported that he was really passionate about security due to recent thefts in the neighborhood. So, yeah. He went vigilante and it got him a murder charge, as he should have been to begin with.

Plus, that kid was skinny as hell. You're telling me that big, fit guy couldn't have easily thrown that brat off of him and turned him over his knee? Kid wasn't armed.

An unknown person in my neighborhood, and wearing clothing that obscures his face, I'd be suspicious of him too, no matter what color. But the difference between me and Zimmerman, is that I would have let the cops do their job and not take matters into my own hands.

his neighbors are a bunch of jerks too "Hey 911, somebody being beat to death outside, tell them keep it down willya"

How can you tell how skinny he was? His parents or their lawyer of whoever is only putting out pictures from when he was 14.

Sharpton and Jackson haven't come up with a way to make money off of those. They'll vaguely be referred to as a sign of racism later because black people were killed and some black people will be convicted of those crimes.

Dealing with actual problems is hard. And not nearly as profitable as race-baiting.