Re: The Constitutionality of the Mandate
I'm gonna burn this mother ****** down!
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I'm gonna burn this mother ****** down!
Well Zarf, you win, Kemp cracked first ![]()
(eerie music, stock footage of DC-9)
NARRATOR: In 1938 a Pan-Am plane from Havana to Miami flew straight into the Bermuda Triangle and vanished forever...
(cut to map of Gulf of Mexico)
NARRATOR: ...until 1980 when it made a perfect landing in Galveston, Texas. And not only were the crew and passengers still alive...
(CGI of 1930s people in 1980 airport)
NARRATOR: they were five years younger than when they left Havana.
(sting)
NARRATOR: And if you believe that shit, vote for V. Kemp!
"You're Ron Paul, and I'll be a jerk to YOU! How you like it NOW??!"
Kemp news conference "Yesterday my detectives found my opponent uses LSD, which is how that last commercial came about"
You just went all History Channel 2 on my ass.
I'LL LINE YOU UP WITH THE REST OF THEM. DON'T PUSH ME.
> Einstein wrote:
> Well Zarf, you win, Kemp cracked first ![]()
That's right. I win arguments without even paying attention!
He was not referring to an argument; perhaps a wager over who would crack first, but not an argument.
Therefore you lose. ![]()
I win!
We won!
Already word is leaking out a liberal judge told a number of people ObamaCare is gone, and the Administration is now going whole hog to change TWO votes.
Now I cannot cite my source, but I trust it.
Obama seems to be flipping out as well and it shows ![]()
So much for his 'only' accomplishment!
Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
Bara I would write a reply, but your not worth a reply.
Flint, I would write a reply, but you didn't give me much to reply to... ![]()
Bara, Flint's views don't represent all of the US. If that were so, Obamacare would have never even been considered.
"base needs" are already taken care of. This is key to the whole opposition to the debate.
Health CARE is not Healthcare Insurance.
Obama changed Healthcare Insurance by denying us choice in the insurance market, ordering us all to buy somebody's insurance, and then setting up bureaucracy to limit our health care options to save money for insurers.
The recent debate on birth control is a good example. The law authorized the Secretary of HHS to decree, by her personal order, the basic level of "preventative care" options that every insurance plan must cover.
So she decided birth control is basic "preventative care". Which it isn't. Then she ordered everybody in the United States to buy it for their workers. And if they object because they are a religious foundation, she decided to ignore 1000 years of history and say that Catholic universities and hospitals are just secular places where a lot of Catholics happen to hang out by coincidence, so, no exemption.
Baratheon:
"I don't understand it. When I read the news that America was adopting a comprehensive health care plan for its citizens, I thought "great, they finally got around to it, and taken the lead from other countries who had the highest quality of life indexes.""
There's more to quality of life than such intentionally misleading ratings.
This legislation increases the price of current insurances, which most Americans have, are happy with, and is better than what's available in nations with socialized care. Though many European nations rank higher in your indexes, most Americans have access to better healthcare than is available in these nations. Making desirable healthcare more expensive does _not_ help people get it. The notion that any bill which makes the best care more expensive ("Obamacare" taxes the shit out of it) is desirable is just stupid and ignorant. You don't get more people grade A healthcare by taxing it 40% more.
America's healthcare is far from perfect--Mostly because of government stifling competition. But to pretend ObamaCare increases the quality of coverage available to the vast majority of Americans by increasing its price is just ignorant. Pretending that America should move toward healthcare models of nations which advance medicine less and have a lower quality of care available to their middle class is just stupid.
Simon,
That ObamaCare is, on the whole, undesirable is a majority position in the USA. That it is unconstitutional is an obvious fact acknowledged by an even greated American majority.
That Obama lashed out at the Supreme Court over the bill was really embarrassing. First, he was flat out lying. It's not unprecedented by any measure. Second, they're unelected and have their duties to be a check on his power. Raging like a baby that there are checks on his power--when he's taught constitutional law-- is just RETARDED. He knows damn well what their powers are (and that this is one of them) and why they have these powers.
Again he's lying and saying absolutely stupid shit to Americans, hoping there are enough idiots among us not to be insulted and disgusted. He's insulting you even if you support his bill. He thinks you're a moron.
It's stupid but I hope he keeps it up. The more he beats defiance of the federal government and rejection of government as the source of moral authority into the hearts of the common people, the more impossible it becomes to impose his sort of centralized socialism.
He only champions his defiance of the courts. He believes he should be the ultimate authority.
He wants a civilian police force as well funded and equipped as the military to ensure nobody defies him. He's said this. That there wasn't a media firestorm demanding to know why is shocking.
Obama was for the courts before he was elected and then was against the courts
http://www.infowars.com/obama-attacks-checks-and-balances-in-his-supreme-court-comments/
"While arrogant rhetoric is nothing new for the child king president, these words serve as a true insight into the mind of a man who claims to have been a constitutional law professor. Obama, and his current supporters, operate under the grossly incorrect idea that the United States is a democracy. Because of the failure of our educational system, years of pop culture propaganda, and the fact the election of our representatives
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